My Heritage auction experience - Update

[rainier2004]

Yeah, I suck at spelling....I get it, I get. Like someone said, I was expecting a nicer 2...i thought writing would knock down the grade? Ifs its a tpg 4 with a mk whats that makes it w/o the qualifier?

Their scans are nice, I guess I just hate their attitude and I dont think the card is worth $235....after i eat the 8.25 s/h, return the card plus the 10% i think the card is worth the 195 id have left into it and that sucks. I also find it a lttle backwards to hear board members go "a 2 is 2"...what hapened to buy the card, not holder? I did look harder, missed 6 wrinkles in the scan and thought the writing was th reason for the grade...I guess that was dumb?

[slidekellyslide]

In the magnified scan on the Heritage site I can see a small wrinkle on the reverse side. Maybe you need a bigger monitor?

[kmac32]

Grade was a bit generous for the card in my opinion. Would have given it a 20 at best. I've had cards graded by SGC that graded 10 in better shape than this one. I have heard that any writing on the card at all would make it a poor/10.

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by kmac32

Grade was a bit generous for the card in my opinion. Would have given it a 20 at best. I've had cards graded by SGC that graded 10 in better shape than this one. I have heard that any writing on the card at all would make it a poor/10.

Exactly....

[Jaybird]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

Yeah, I suck at spelling....I get it, I get. Like someone said, I was expecting a nicer 2...i thought writing would knock down the grade? Ifs its a tpg 4 with a mk whats that makes it w/o the qualifier?

Their scans are nice, I guess I just hate their attitude and I dont think the card is worth $235....after i eat the 8.25 s/h, return the card plus the 10% i think the card is worth the 195 id have left into it and that sucks. I also find it a lttle backwards to hear board members go "a 2 is 2"...what hapened to buy the card, not holder? I did look harder, missed 6 wrinkles in the scan and thought the writing was th reason for the grade...I guess that was dumb?

I think it's a darn good looking card for a "2". So, in effect, the higher price for that "2" is because it presents well. Though I really don't know the market for that card so I couldn't tell you if that is high or low for that card.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by rainier2004

Their scans are nice, I guess I just hate their attitude and I dont think the card is worth $235....after i eat the 8.25 s/h, return the card plus the 10% i think the card is worth the 195 id have left into it and that sucks. I also find it a lttle backwards to hear board members go "a 2 is 2"...what hapened to buy the card, not holder? I did look harder, missed 6 wrinkles in the scan and thought the writing was th reason for the grade...I guess that was dumb?

Steve, I know I'll get ripped for this, but here goes. Several of us had a bad experience with Heritage in their November auction (shipping delays), and Chris came on the board and made it clear that he would make everything right - he didn't say how, he just promised us. He then went overboard trying to fix the situation. Since then, I've won items in two additional monthly auctions of theirs, had a small issue in one and a billing problem in another, and each time they bent over backward to rectify things.

They have some problems, no doubt. I think it's because they are a huge company and the left hand often doesn't mesh with the right. However, all the issues (shipping, auction descriptions, etc.) can be rectified through their customer service. If not, contact one of the Chris's. As many issues as I have run into with them, their selection and these two guys have caused me to keep going back.

[E93]

IMHO it is a great looking card for a 2. I'm not sure what you are complaining about. Maybe it is just a case of displaced buyer's remorse. It is a professionally graded 2. What did you expect?
JimB

[MW1]

I looked at the largest scans and am able to see multiple creases. Also, the SGC grade seems pretty accurate. The card is definitely better than "Fair" or "Poor" condition but not good enough to be "VG". "Good" is the correct grade.

[yanks4]

Steve......This is a HOF Cracker Jack ....I have been tracking these for 8 years......I can't remember a HOFer of anybody for under $200......The card looks fairly graded....These things are expensive to most folks I know but you usually get what you pay for ...You didn't steal it but you didn't IMO over pay ......You might pick up a 4 for $375- 450 Good Luck with your journey.....

[sycks22]

Forget the card, are you really complaining about $8.50 to ship an item that's valued over $200? What should it cost? $1.58? I know it's been discussed previously, but $8 for shipping is pretty cheap. If they put any insurance on it and shipped it even priority that's $8 right there.

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by sycks22

Forget the card, are you really complaining about $8.50 to ship an item that's valued over $200? What should it cost? $1.58? I know it's been discussed previously, but $8 for shipping is pretty cheap. If they put any insurance on it and shipped it even priority that's $8 right there.

No i wasnt. My point was $8.25 for s/h + 10% (22.70) + return s/h 8.25 brings the total to 39.20 to return the card equating to approximately 195 id get in return. The card is worth 195, but not 235. Im missing how thats a complaint about shipping costs.

[Cat]

I had this very same thing happen with Heritage a couple years ago. I have spent considerable sums with Auction Houses and never had it happen before. The first two scans are Heritage's, the next two are mine. They tried to give me "it's your monitor" excuse too (BS). Were they intentially trying to deceive or does their scanning suck? I don't know. I called and complained and in short desciption was told to pound sand. All creases are not created equal. All 30s are not equal. That "crease" is deep and pierces the paper. When spending $20K on a card, I would have liked to have known that.

[smtjoy]

The card looks graded correctly at a 30, very nice card and sold for about what i would expect. Good luck.