Hhhmmm, I wonder what happened to autographalert?

[drc]

Though of course it's possible I have things mixed up or otherwise don't know what I'm talking about.

[J.McMurry]

Is there a problem saying Steven koschal?

[thekingofclout]

Just found this... http://live.autographmagazine.com/pr...ert-shuts-down

[Vintagedegu]

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[thetruthisoutthere]

Does anyone really think that the owner(s) of AutographAlert voluntarily removed their website "for the good of the hobby?"

[travrosty]

A critique site of the tpa's that is milquetoast is just what the tpa's want. Mild=accomadating and validating.

They would probably start one themselves if it meant no one ever dug any further than gently criticizing a little something here or there. then everyone moves on and thinks the tpa's are taking constructive criticism and taking it to heart and trying to get better.

Which is just not reality. it's not what is happening.

You will never hear the real stuff that is going on without it being labeled as a troublemaker site. That goes for any topic.

Managed and directed pitter patter criticism is just what they want. As long as it doesn't get to the truth and the real stuff that goes on. Then everybody can say how gentle and good the criticizing party is for making it all palatable and sugar coated. Then nothing ever changes or is reformed for the better.

[Vintagedegu]

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[travrosty]

No, milquetoast and gentle are my own wordings. actually i agree with you. i was referring to what it would take for others to see it as a mainstream or reputable site, not what an actual mainstream, reputable tpa criticism site would entail. but anytime anyone digs deep and really critiques tpa's. it will instantly be known as a troublemaker site. You can't be friends of these tpa's or try to do them a favor by helping them get better when they don't want to do so and they just want you to go away.

any credible, or mainstream critiquing site of a tpa will not be considered such on day one that they post their first critique.

it will be instantly bashed as being meanspirited, wrongheaded, mean, troublemaker, etc. by the people that don't want anything to change.

so there really is not going to be any site that is known as the reputable criticism site of TPA's, because even the people here that love and defend TPA's will call it

'bashing' or my favorite "cherrypicking"

apologies from me. i didnt want to take any words you said and transfer them to my own and put words in anyone elses mouth.