Ink Colors used in T206

t206hound · #1 03-10-2012, 03:59 PM

I wanted to get the general consensus that "buff" (or similar) was part of the printing process. That seems to be extremely likely (if not confirmed). My rationale for asking is that I picked up the following card that I believed had missing red ink. A "buff" color does appear where the red would be in a few cases. I wanted to make sure it wasn't faded/chemical red. I believe this to be a legit missing red ink card of Gilbert, and a few board members concur.

In the scans, notice that the one with red ink does, in fact, have an under layer of buff for the "S" in St. Louis. Also look at the full scan where there is absolutely no red or buff in the belt. BTW, there's also a nice slight ghost on this card to boot.

steve B · #2 03-11-2012, 10:39 AM

Buff is probably what I was calling gray/tan. I wasn't sure if it was a part of the brown at the time. Some cards I have the brown is more grayish.

But the ones I'm seeing here and looking at more of mine make me think buff is its own color.

And buff sounds a bit nicer than tan.

Steve B

mrvster · #3 03-11-2012, 10:23 PM

Nice Score ERICK!

At first i was skeptical until you sent to hi res!

Eagle EYe Erick....c the PRO

!!

Thank God your on my side

bijoem · #4 03-13-2012, 12:48 PM

Chris -

that ALC proof you have is absolutely outstanding..... and I think says a lot about how the cards might have been printed.

very cool.

t206hound · #5 07-28-2012, 01:06 PM

Well, I've tried twice to get this card slabbed with SGC. I understand that the the TPGs are a little leery of slabbing things like this. There's that whole liability thing. But to me this is a no brainer. I'll take this card to them again at the National and if I don't have success, try at PSA.

Any thoughts from those in the know? I've provided scans of my SGC 40 Gilbert and of the presumed missing red ink Gilbert below:

steve B · #6 07-28-2012, 02:17 PM

That's a tough one. Initial reaction to the higher res was that it was faded. It looks like some reddish tint there, and red fades horribly.

But knowing that they often overlaid pink with red and there being solid pink in the shadow across the body but what looks like none in the belt makes me think missing red.

I can also see why a grading company would be overly cautious and decide not to slab it as a missing color.

Someday I'll have to add looking at the minor missing colors compared to other missing colors and regular cards. I had a pair with a clear but kinda trivial missing red at one time and sold one of them. I still have the one missing red, but I'm pretty sure it's actually more common on that card

Steve B

t206hound · #7 07-28-2012, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve B

That's a tough one. Initial reaction to the higher res was that it was faded. It looks like some reddish tint there, and red fades horribly.

But knowing that they often overlaid pink with red and there being solid pink in the shadow across the body but what looks like none in the belt makes me think missing red.

Yeah, that was my initial gut when I bought it. But then I started comparing it to other Gilbert's and noticed the layer of pink/buff under the red.

I don't blame SGC for not slabbing it, but I'm 100% certain it is missing that red color pass.

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