A Jimmy Spence authentication question.

[travrosty]

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Another winner Ali from the world experts. They are so good at their job I am just in awe on a daily basis.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by travrosty

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Another winner Ali from the world experts. They are so good at their job I am just in awe on a daily basis.

But Travis can never criticize Chris Morales for certing in the hundreds (maybe thousands) the below Muhammad Ali.

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[earlywynnfan]

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This one must be Travis' fault, too. Or maybe Peter Nash's. Or maybe it's mine!

All I know is, we can't blame PSA for this.

Ken
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[earlywynnfan]

By the way, just in case anyone actually cares about the item that started this all. There were no huge auto signings for Negro Leaguers, other than a couple reunions. NL collectors will recognize this piece as one that rode around in the back of the van belonging to a midwest man who went to these players' houses to do signings. No COA needed.

Ken
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[travrosty]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

http://haulsofshame.com/blog/?p=11626#more-11626

This one must be Travis' fault, too. Or maybe Peter Nash's. Or maybe it's mine!

All I know is, we can't blame PSA for this.

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

It will be my fault or Peter's or someones. Anyones but PSA's. What's 1300 dollars between friends anyway?

People will come and spin their wheel of excuses and come up with one of the following.


They are the best we got.

They get it right the majority of the time.

You are just cherry picking.

They are generally accepted in the hobby.

They increase the value of your autograph. (yeah, from zero to 1300 dollars.)

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When is enough enough?

I will ask the same question I have asked after the Honus Wagner disappearing autograph story. Is THIS enough?

I await the obligatory deflecting of the issue at hand by showing someone elses non sequitor authentication that has nothing to do with it.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by travrosty

When is enough enough?

I will ask the same question I have asked after the Honus Wagner disappearing autograph story. Is THIS enough?

Enough for what? What should we do?

Wayne

[David Atkatz]

Stop blindly relying on their "expertise," perhaps?

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Stop blindly relying on their "expertise," perhaps?

I will say what I said in my "So what is an autograph collector supposed to do?" thread. I have a number of PSA/DNA and JSA authenticated autos in my HOF autograph collection, photos of which can be found in the link in my signature. Not all of the autos are authenticated, and not all of those those that are authenticated are shown to be such from the scan. But I believe all of them to be authentic. I would welcome (really rather appreciate, actually) if any- and everyone looked through them and pointed any out that they thought to be inauthentic.

Having said that, it is damn hard to avoid certed autographs on the high-end side of this hobby. The reputable dealers that have been listed here are usually out of my price range. Auctions it is! If they are not using those certs, all the better for me I guess.

Further, I do not want to "break the slabs and throw them away," because they do actually add value at the present, and I can do that at any time (when and if they face a GAI-like downfall).

I do know which LOAs I will stay away from entirely. PSA/DNA and JSA are not among them.

Wayne Walker