HOF RC Boxing List - WTB and looking for suggestions

[miklia]

wow, looking at old threads it appears that the N174 is next to impossible. Do you guys think it's too tough for a simple RC list like this?

[boxingcarddigest]

wow, looking at old threads it appears that the N174 is next to impossible. Do you guys think it's too tough for a simple RC list like this?

Well considering only about 2 have ever been seen, then I would think so

[oldjudge]

The rookie card is the rookie card. Completing the set should not enter into the criteria.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

The rookie card is the rookie card. Completing the set should not enter into the criteria.

So true yet so painful...

Gene Tunney has a 1922 Exhibit.

Benny Leonard has a 1921 Exhibit.

I don't have a record of a Sharkey earlier than 1928.
United Tobacco is a 1941 or 1942 issue; the album for the set has a write up that describes Louis as having defended the title 19 times.
Sugar Ray Robinson is in a prewar Exhibit issue

Joe Louis is in a 1935 Brown & Bigelow issue:

Also a 1935 Detroit Free Press issue:

Homicide Hank Armstrong is in a 1930s Exhibit issue that probably predates the Cartledge issue

John Henry Lewis is in that issue too.
This is Cassius Clay's 1st American card, early 1960s Exhibit:

Ingo Johanssen is in the 1958 Heinerle issue from Germany

[miklia]

wow, thanks for all of the great tips (and pics)! A couple of followup questions then:

1) Do you guys consider the Exhibits 'cards'? Or for that matter, things like the Rekord cut-outs? I've heard others often say (on other boards) that 'photos' or 'paper' shouldn't be included..

2) There are several players who have multiple RCs for a given year. With an eye on subbing to the PSA/SGC registry, should they all be included, or only the 'best'?

[miklia]

That Ray Robinson Exhibit is outstanding, btw.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

I would include any Exhibit that can be pinned down to one particular year for issue release (early stuff). I would not include the latters (47-66).

I would not include the Brown & Bigelow or Detroit Free press as those are supplements/premiums.

For me (and there's obviously no textbook definition), a rookie card should come from a set; meaning there should be multiple fighters/players issued under the same release. Otherwise, why not just include dated photos?

The '71 Barratt Ali shouldn't even be considered. There are dozens of Ali cards prior to that no matter how you define rookie card.

The more important question is what constitutes a "card?" Archie Moore has 1948/49 issues (and early 50s) from outside the US, although they're not rectangular.