What do you think of this DiMaggio ball?

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

That is a horrible Joe DiMaggio and there is no way that PSA authenticated it.

If that is true, that PSA did not authenticate it, than the entire system of authentication by pre-certification really stinks and it is not worth the paper that those PSA pre-certs are printed on.
If PSA did not authenticate it are they aware that Heritage uses the PSA name to verify an autograph?
Something really stinks here if PSA did not examine this autograph.
Something really stinks here if PSA did examine this autograph.
And I know some can make a stink that there is very little money involved in this item, but lets multiply that by who knows how often this might occur.
Heritage are you just slapping a PSA COA on any item you choose to, without any examination at all? If so, why is PSA allowing that?
We know that people from Heritage read this forum as they have responded to prior threads. I think perhaps some answers are in order now.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

If that is true, that PSA did not authenticate it, than the entire system of authentication by pre-certification really stinks and it is not worth the paper that those PSA pre-certs are printed on.
If PSA did not authenticate it are they aware that Heritage uses the PSA name to verify an autograph?
Something really stinks here if PSA did not examine this autograph.
Something really stinks here if PSA did examine this autograph.
And I know some can make a stink that there is very little money involved in this item, but lets multiply that by who knows how often this might occur.
Heritage are you just slapping a PSA COA on any item you choose to, without any examination at all? If so, why is PSA allowing that?
We know that people from Heritage read this forum as they have responded to prior threads. I think perhaps some answers are in order now.

This aspect of B.S. in the autograph industry should be added to Travis's TPA "Bill of Rights".

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

If that is true, that PSA did not authenticate it, than the entire system of authentication by pre-certification really stinks and it is not worth the paper that those PSA pre-certs are printed on.
If PSA did not authenticate it are they aware that Heritage uses the PSA name to verify an autograph?
Something really stinks here if PSA did not examine this autograph.
Something really stinks here if PSA did examine this autograph.
And I know some can make a stink that there is very little money involved in this item, but lets multiply that by who knows how often this might occur.
Heritage are you just slapping a PSA COA on any item you choose to, without any examination at all? If so, why is PSA allowing that?
We know that people from Heritage read this forum as they have responded to prior threads. I think perhaps some answers are in order now.

Very valid points,

Is it live or is it memorex? When is an item at heritage inspected and issued an loa or precertification, and when is it not?

they dropped the ball and i would love to hear an explanation too, but they have to come up with one first that they think will fly.

Let's hear it heritage!

And how does someone know for sure that psa did not authenticate that ball? It says so right on the auction listing, and it is not a 'preview' item, but a live item open for bidding. You have to take a listing at face value. It says precertified by psa, so it's precertified by PSA.

Chris Ivy said that the 'preview' items, that are not for sale, carried the phantom LOA's, not live items. This is a live item. So what is the excuse this week?

[Vintagedegu]

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[HRBAKER]

Sounds like mostly a way to pass the majority of the cost of the authentication on to the bidder/winner but for the auction house to be able to reap the benefits of the item being certified.

[Bilko G]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

Sounds like mostly a way to pass the majority of the cost of the authentication on to the bidder/winner but for the auction house to be able to reap the benefits of the item being certified.

thats exactly what is.

Not to mention, if i win a new item that is already "pre certified" by PSA as being genuine, the last thing i want to have to do is mail it off for a few weeks to get the full loa.

[RichardSimon]

Look at what it says on the Heritage site when you click the link to that auction:

This lot has been withdrawn from this auction. Bids are no longer accepted and previous bids have been cancelled.
Wow,, I guess I will never be allowed to re-register with Heritage now .

[RichardSimon]

Now the questions remain: (boy it is nice to know that Heritage reads this board)

1- Did PSA ever look at that ball and the 500 HR ball that Shelly wrote about that was also removed?
2- Did Heritage somehow issue a PSA pre-cert for these baseballs, without an examination by PSA, and if so how can they do that? Did PSA supply them with pre-certs?
3- Or did Heritage have their own in house authorities (two former well known autograph dealers) examine the baseballs?

Anyone care to speculate if these questions will be answered?