Top 100 Negro League Cards of All-Time

bcbgcbrcb · #1 03-27-2012, 08:31 PM

Bell actually appears on a c1930 real photo postcard which I believe is unique and is also severely trimmed down.

Kenny Cole · #2 03-27-2012, 09:31 PM

Here's a RPPC of Bell

rustywilly · #3 03-28-2012, 12:44 AM

Your list shows a lot of research Phil, nice job. Some questions below:

You mentioned the list “takes into account rarity, player selection and value above condition.” But, you have the 1945-6 Caramelo Deportivo Dihigo listed at #60 with 40 total graded examples (total SGC – 29; total PSA - 11). Then, you have the 1946-47 Caramelo Deportivo Martin Dihigo listed at #66 with 11 graded examples (total SGC– 7; total PSA - 4). Finally, the Fotos Dihigo with three known copies is at #77. C'mon now - it's numero uno in my collection, man!!! Singles from each of the Caramelo Deportivo sets are regularly available in graded and raw form.

Are you placing a premium on rookie vs. 2nd year, etc?

Why is the rookie Cabanas Hill with one known example not listed above the Punch Cigars Hill with 2 copies?

Where's the 1949-50 Toleteros Hilton Smith? I'd trade lots of cards on your list for an example.

Thanks again!

bcbgcbrcb · #4 03-28-2012, 03:15 AM

Nice, Kenny. That's not the one that I was talking about but great card!

Mark:

Definitely an oversight on my part with the Toleteros Hilton Smith, I guess something was bound to fall through the cracks on a 100 card list. My reasoning on the Punch Hill over Cabanas is that the Punch set overall seems to exhibit more interest and collectability, obviously once you are at a level of one or two known examples, rarity is basically the same as both would be near-impossible cards to own. Regarding the Dihigo cards, you are correct in your assessment, as I got further down on my list, the order probably got a little less accurate and I did favor the earlier cards over later ones in most cases, with collectibility of a particular set in general playing a role in things as well.

fkw · #5 03-28-2012, 03:20 AM

PS Phil, I forgot to mention on my earlier thread........ thanks for making the list (I can se it took some time), many of the cards I never really thought about or forgot about, nice to see a list of all these rarities on one thread. Get people thinking about how rare some of these truly are.... Frank

ghostmarcelle · #6 03-28-2012, 08:45 AM

Phil,

Kudos to you for the concept and execution of your list - I can tell it took much effort and was well thought out. The inclusion of guys like Heavy Johnson, Clint Thomas and Sam Bankhead also reveal a depth of knowledge into Negro League history. Any list like this is always subjective and fueled by personal preference, so there really is no right or wrong and everyone's list is going to be a little different. This is not meant to be a criticism, but here are a few thoughts that I would take into account in coming up with my own list:

-I would have more 1909 Cabanas, this is the first Cuban set and it is a beauty. I would consider guys like Luis Padron, Luis Bustamante, Chino Moran and Agustin Parpetti.
-There are several other US Negro Leaguers from the 1920's sets that I would include before going to the Felices/Toleteros era, guys like Dave Brown, Edgar Wesley, Frank Duncan, Frank Warfield, Jesse Hubbard, Valentin Dreke, etc.
-There are a couple Toleteros that rank high for me personally, including the 1948-49 Bus Clarkson photographic card, the 1949-50 Perucho Cepeda variation, and anything with Canena Marquez.

Overall a terrific effort though, and I hope it leads to more discussion!

bcbgcbrcb · #7 03-28-2012, 09:11 AM

Good points, Matt, especially Dave Brown. He was one of those bubble guys that I thought hard about including but fell just short in the end. For the lesser known players, I relied mainly on my Negro League Baseball Biographical Encyclopedia along with pricing in the SCBC Negro League related sets.

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