Need ID help, 1867 Harvard Baseball Nine

[GaryPassamonte]

Carlton- There are a few CdVs picturing the 1866 team as well as a couple picturing the 1867 team shown on this thread. There may be others of the Harvard team, but these are the only two teams I'm familiar with. This Harvard CdV is mine. I have one other college CdV that pictures the Agallians of Wesleyan University in Middletown, CT circa 1868. This CdV is significant in that it shows the three bases as well as both the pitchers plate and home plate. This team is posted here.

[benjulmag]

One of the pages in the 1867 Harvard yearbook shows that very image. In those days, each yearbook page was a separate albumen photo. Some years back that original albumen image taken directly from an 1867 yearbook was auctioned by Lew Lipset.

EDITED to add that there is also extant a Cdv of the 1867 Harvard team. Inasmuch as it is blank-backed, it is likely a pirate Cdv, possibly made by taking a photo of the yearbook page. As I recall it is the cover photo on Mark Rucker's Cdv book on the first baseball cards (i.e., Cdvs).

[CarltonHendricks]

Originally Posted by GaryPassamonte

Carlton- There are a few CdVs picturing the 1866 team as well as a couple picturing the 1867 team shown on this thread. There may be others of the Harvard team, but these are the only two teams I'm familiar with. This Harvard CdV is mine. I have one other college CdV that pictures the Agallians of Wesleyan University in Middletown, CT circa 1868. This CdV is significant in that it shows the three bases as well as both the pitchers plate and home plate. This team is posted here.

Very nice Gary...I would guess those are in the "exotic" baseball category...How often do those surface?....looks like something you'd see in the booth of Terry and Nathan Knouse of Tik Tik & Nik....Are there any college team photo cdv's of football? Rowing?...

You'll laugh but, other than I knew they were some kind of photo, I didn't even know exactly what a CDV was until about four years ago when I bought the two below...my interest was that they were sports sculpture....I was disappointed they were so small, and not as big as a cabinet photos....a friend had to explain to me they were essentially "better" and earlier than cabinet photos...although I think the genera's overlap...As I recall I believe these came out of the Rucker collection and are in some book...which I don't think I've seen.

[GaryPassamonte]

Carlton-I have a copy of the CdV on the left in your post. I'd be interested in the one on the right should you ever sell it. I strictly collect baseball CdVs and know nothing about examples from other sports. CdVs are much scarcer than cabinets and, I believe, less plentiful than tintypes. I would say that somewhere between 15 and 20 become available at auction or through ebay annually. I've discussed the total baseball CdV population with others on this board. Estimates vary between 200 and 300 pieces. I'd be interested in the opionions of others.
Corey-The 1867 Harvards on the cover of Rucker's CdV book always looked odd. I never heard your theory on its origin. It sounds possible.