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View Poll Results: What do you think of this PSA slabbed Ty Cobb signature?
It is an exact replication of Ron K's Ty Cobb autograph 43 75.44%
It is a very similar, but totally different autograph as the owner has claimed 5 8.77%
Undecided 9 15.79%
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:38 PM
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True story Donavon, similar to yours in many ways.

I bought a cut off of ebay of Tom Sharkey, old time heavyweight boxer.

When I received the signature, I thought it looked funny, it looked 'flat', like it was a reproduced signature out of an old magazine ad, etc. It looked like a printed copy.

I wanted to confirm my suspicions so out of everyone I know which is a lot of people I decided to send it to someone that would take time and do a thorough job, I sent it to Richard Simon.

He confirmed it that it wasn't an original signature and sent it back to me. I still have it, I didn't burn it. It won't enter the hobby, but I have it for reference in case other boxing collectors run across something similar in the future. That's how we learn and grow as a collecting community, not destroying evidence and leaving future generations to guess if something similar rears its ugly head at a later date.

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Old 04-10-2012, 06:56 PM
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I just heard from the owner of the Cobb cut and he told me he would not be mailing it to me due to his fear of it being lost in the mail and then winding up back in the hobby.
I am sorry but that is a crock. A huge crock.
Didn't PSA use the mail to send it back to you Donavon?????
It was good enough for the million dollar Hope Diamond but not good enough for a masterfully forged Ty Cobb cut??
Why not send it Fed Ex, which is virtually foolproof.
I will pay for the shipping.


ps. The owner did invite me to Louisiana if I did want to examine it but I am not about to do that. Who knows if there really is anything to see?
This whole thing was a crock from beginning to end and now Donavon won't do anything to help the hobby.
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"The item, legally, belongs to Donavon."

Your direct quote from the BST thread. He doesnt want to send it to you or anyone. Let it go.

Yes, you can promise you wont sell it but what happens if you are robbed or when you pass away. Look how he got the signature, from a bulk sale. Frankly, I think he is doing the right thing by destroying it.
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:30 PM
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"The item, legally, belongs to Donavon."

Your direct quote from the BST thread. He doesnt want to send it to you or anyone. Let it go.

Yes, you can promise you wont sell it but what happens if you are robbed or when you pass away. Look how he got the signature, from a bulk sale. Frankly, I think he is doing the right thing by destroying it.
Is that a serious post?
Robbed?
When I pass away?
I am going to hold it for a day or two, did you think I was going to hold it for years? Huh? Why would I want to do that?
You quote my early post but why ignore the post where I said I would return it quickly to Donavon. Post#41, in this thread.
He got it from a bulk sale? He said he got it from an estate sale. And the master forger just dropped it into an estate sale with a bunch of Goudey cards?
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Old 04-11-2012, 07:16 AM
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completely serious
So you actually thought that I might die with that cut????
That I was going to keep it for many years???
When I specifically said I wanted it for a short time you thought it could be robbed from me or that I would die with it????????
Wow!!!
What reason would I have had to keep it???
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This whole thing is ridiculous. Its a fake, PSA messed up, it should just be dropped. But, to not trust someone like Richard or the mail is being a bit too paranoid mail wise, and just mistrusting of someone w a good rep.
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