The Cincinnati Wagner "Graded"

barrysloate · #1 04-12-2012, 02:42 PM

The owners say "We want everyone to have the facts."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but has anybody seen any facts up to this point?

Leon · #2 04-12-2012, 05:40 PM

I called the auctioneer today and left a message. He called me back and seems like a really nice guy. We spoke for approximately 25 minutes. He knows the whole story. At the end of the day I think it is more about publicity. I told him at the end of all of this he will be out a lot of time, make no money and could possibly be a laughing stock. He took it in stride. He says he is only going by all of the experts who have authenticated it and is a venue only. I guess the company who authenticated it knows some hockey player....or vice versa and that gives them some credibility, according to him. After we spoke and spoke I just had to let him know that no matter what is said, or done.....it is still just a fake card. Plain and simple.

Runscott · #3 04-12-2012, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrysloate

The owners say "We want everyone to have the facts."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but has anybody seen any facts up to this point?

There are two facts:

1. It's a reprint
2. The sellers know it's a reprint

CW · #4 04-12-2012, 06:29 PM

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Chris Felix, Cincinnati sports artist who was commissioned by the ToppsTrading Card Company 2 years ago will be featuring an original painting that illustrates the cousins 10 year journey.

Wow. How exactly does an artist render 10 years of epic failure on canvas?

I will admit, I have been mildly entertained by this whole ordeal. It will be interesting to see how this all pans out. I am also curious to see if eBay actually lets this auction run its full course.

The real irony here is that if these two cousins had spent this much time and energy on a credible, legitimate business venture, they would've likely been on their way to making close to the same amount of money that they seek for this "Wagner".

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Tsaiko · #5 04-12-2012, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott

There are two facts:

1. It's a reprint
2. The sellers know it's a reprint

1. They're fake breasts
2. She knows they're fake, we know they're fake.
3. Someone won't know or someone won't care.

P. T. Barnum said it best......

The potentially sad thing about this, is that someone ignorant of the hobby might buy it, then a month later they'll stumble onto net54 and want to show off their new possession.

g_vezina_c55 · #6 04-12-2012, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsaiko

The potentially sad thing about this, is that someone ignorant of the hobby might buy it, then a month later they'll stumble onto net54 and want to show off their new possession.

Hope this will not happen.

CW · #7 04-18-2012, 10:38 PM

The auction appears to be live, with a starting bid of only $500K...

Link to eBay auction edit: auction pulled. Link will not work.

They have also posted what appears to be a new YouTube video, as well as a preview of the new painting created to depict the owners' ordeal with this card. Yes, it keeps getting better!

http://youtu.be/DrZNmp_eYMY

CW · #8 04-18-2012, 10:48 PM

Had to post this screen cap. Gold.

WhenItWasAHobby · #9 04-19-2012, 07:31 AM

This screams volumes. My only issue with it is that it should be in size 24 font in bold print at the top of the description.

Disclaimer:
Manage My Auction, LLC and the listing agent makes no representations or statements of fact on the authenticity of the Cobb / Edwards T206 Honus Wagner Piedmont back baseball card. Manage My Auction, LLC, is a third party professional auction listing services company. We are not affiliated with eBay. We are an independent company. Viewers of this page and bidders agree and acknowledge that they will indemnify and hold harmless Manage My Auction, LLC and its officers, members, employees, partners, agents and staff from any and all claims, causes of action, actions, suits, errors, judgments, actions, failure to obtain any licenses, releases and/or consents and demands as a result of any acts of omission, negligence, injuries or damage to persons and/or property arising out of or in connection with the use of the services specified. Viewers and bidders also certifies that any information and/or materials supplied to Manage My Auction, LLC by Ray Edwards and John Cobb is accurate and complete and therefore Manage My Auction, LLC is not liable for any inaccurate and/or incomplete information or materials provided by Ray Edwards and John Cobb to Manage My Auction, LLC.

bn2cardz · #10 04-19-2012, 10:19 AM

I posted yesterday (a lost post) that it is obvious from the disclaimer that the Auction company is not taking any position on whether it is authentic. To me, since they are the posters on ebay, that is an authenticity disclaimer that Ebay is not suppose to allow.

Also I noticed in their description they reference the t206museum. If you go to their site they have a picture of the card and it says it is a fake. That seems like a backfire on their part. haha

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