Was I Shilled??

calvindog · #1 04-21-2012, 11:51 PM

I'm not sure why you think it's interesting being a contrarian with no intelligent input -- just bizarre commentary and claims that fraud in our hobby is not a big deal, that you are above such meaningless matters like fraud because of your brilliant bidding strategies. And then you put on your tattered smoking jacket and pat yourself on the back even though everyone is laughing at you.

I won't address your comments about my career or skills because as we both know if I objectively compared my accomplishments to yours you'd come out looking as foolish as a guy who thinks that prices of cards would go up if shill bidding was eliminated.

T206Collector · #2 04-21-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

I'm not sure why you think it's interesting being a contrarian with no intelligent input -- just bizarre commentary and claims that fraud in our hobby is not a big deal, that you are above such meaningless matters like fraud because of your brilliant bidding strategies. And then you put on your tattered smoking jacket and pat yourself on the back even though everyone is laughing at you.

I won't address your comments about my career or skills because as we both know if I objectively compared my accomplishments to yours you'd come out looking as foolish as a guy who thinks that prices of cards would go up if shill bidding was eliminated.

Do you know how hard it is to argue with you without poking fun at all of the news articles about you? I mean, I'm really trying not to reference your wikipedia page.

calvindog · #3 04-22-2012, 12:03 AM

It's a wikipedia page which has been edited about 1000000 times by every sort of maniac in the world -- like you. And yet you'd 'reference' it? Really?

Do you know how easy it is to argue with a nonentity like yourself? I mean, really?

T206Collector · #4 04-22-2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

It's a wikipedia page which has been edited about 1000000 times by every sort of maniac in the world -- like you. And yet you'd 'reference' it? Really?

Do you know how easy it is to argue with a nonentity like yourself? I mean, really?

You remind me of Bruce. But I appreciate that you haven't started with the insulting emails.

In a weird sort of way, I respect you (and myself) too much to go much further into the personal attacks. I have some really funny ones, too. But I'll take the high road.

Perhaps we fight because I remain as anonymous as possible on here. It gives you license to attack my wealth, card collection and intelligence.

I am just going to agree to disagree about the whole shilling thing. Keep fighting the good fight. I hope you make the world a better place for me to collect in, even if I come across as totally unappreciative.

Goodnight Jeff!

Xoxo Paul

calvindog · #5 04-22-2012, 01:49 PM

And you remind me of Peter Chao. Except you're not Asian. And I've got some funny comments about you too -- just let me know when you want me to state them publicly.

Finally, I don't need any thanks from you nor do I deserve them. You happily claim to be isolated and selfish in your collecting and that's fine with me, nothing wrong with that. But when you publicly claim that shill bidding is not an issue to be concerned about and actually helps keep prices down and cards plentiful -- well, that's where I'm going to respond. Every person on this board has been a fraud victim one way or another through this hobby -- even you. To simply dismiss it as a cost of doing business is to simply be weak and a willing victim. That's one of the differences between me and you.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 04-22-2012, 02:18 PM

Peter Chao was unique, I don't see the comparison.

As far as shill bidding goes, who here is willing to take a stand and not bid with houses or ebay sellers we suspect are guilty, when they have a card we want? And if we are not willing to do that, why rant and rave?

calvindog · #7 04-22-2012, 02:51 PM

Peter, that's not the point being discussed nor is it the sole duty of the victim to protect himself from fraud. But at the very least we should be able to identify fraud for what it is. Otherwise, what's the point in combating fraud if collectors actually think fraud helps them get the cards they want?

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