FB cards as an investment?

[Publius]

Originally Posted by Leon

Guys, from a person who is closing in on 7000 posts on this board and more than twice as many than all but a few people, I can absolutely tell you that more threads and posts begat more threads and posts. If you want more action then you need to be the one to start it. If you build it, they will come .

Leon, football by your own admission isn't even a primary function of N54. It's lumped in with "water cooler talk" as a forum for F's sake. So the " if you build it the will come" rhetoric starts at the top, meaning you! Make N54 a tad bit more football friendly and you'll see more football posts, ie more traffic, ie more banner add money.

[jimthorpe]

Joe, you need to be more candid in your posts. This beating around the bush is confusing for everyone.

However, this time I must agree with you...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Publius

Leon, football by your own admission isn't even a primary function of N54. It's lumped in with "water cooler talk" as a forum for F's sake. So the " if you build it the will come" rhetoric starts at the top, meaning you! Make N54 a tad bit more football friendly and you'll see more football posts, ie more traffic, ie more banner add money.

Great suggestion. So how does one make the forum more football friendly?

[jefferyepayne]

Well, since you asked ...

I would assume there is not enough football traffic on the site to justify more than one football forum (i.e. pre-war, post-war, etc.) so any suggestions along those lines are probably DOA and I would agree.

It would help if the football forum was elevated to "above the fold" on the web site so it is closer to the top. I don't know how the site evolved but I would reorganize it as follows:

Main Forums
* Pre-war baseball forum
* Post-war baseball forum
* Vintage football forum
* Vintage memorabilia forum

Buy/Sell/Trade
(keep as is)

Watercooler
* All sports
* Off topics & new members

Other Forums
* Boxing/Wrestling
* Hockey/Basketball/Tennis
* Golf/Soccer/Cricket

This way all of the major forums are together and at the top. Perhaps the hardcore baseball people would not like this but it make organizational sense if you want to better highlight football.

jeff

Originally Posted by Leon

Great suggestion. So how does one make the forum more football friendly?

[Myachelydra]

Nice thread Jeff...if you do searches on the main board you will find that we have similar discussions in the past, including one titled "football sucks". Obviously those are not my feelings as football has been a passion of mine as a player, coach, collector, and researcher for the last 35 years.

Football collecting is at the beginning of a renaissance of sorts. As people like Bob Swick of Gridiron Greats provide a vehicle for collectors to share information about the game and collectibles the hobby side will continue to gain momentum. Knowledge, interest, and prices of vintage football collectibles have escalated in the past few years.

I collect vintage baseball as well and love both sports...many vintage baseball collectors do not share multiple interests which could explain the relegation of football to the water cooler section. In defense of the policy, Net54 was set up to be a vintage baseball forum.

Shoot me an email and we can discuss some potential outlets to discuss vintage football.

[k-dog]

Have an entire part of the forum be only John Facenda soundbites!

"The frozen tundra of Lambeau Field"

I loved that guy!

[jefferyepayne]

I get it in terms of Net54. It IS called Net54baseball, afterall. But since Leon asked, I figured I would answer. He is the boss ;-)

I too collect baseball cards and love baseball. I've never understood the "In order to love my sport I have to hate all others" approach to life but whatever. I don't collect basketball/boxing/golf/etc. cards but certainly have nothing against those that do or their sport.

I would love a place where vintage baseball and football discussions could co-exist but am certainly interested in other outlets for vintage football if this is not a realistic possibility at N54. I'll drop you an email.

jeff

Originally Posted by Myachelydra

Nice thread Jeff...if you do searches on the main board you will find that we have similar discussions in the past, including one titled "football sucks". Obviously those are not my feelings as football has been a passion of mine as a player, coach, collector, and researcher for the last 35 years.

Football collecting is at the beginning of a renaissance of sorts. As people like Bob Swick of Gridiron Greats provide a vehicle for collectors to share information about the game and collectibles the hobby side will continue to gain momentum. Knowledge, interest, and prices of vintage football collectibles have escalated in the past few years.

I collect vintage baseball as well and love both sports...many vintage baseball collectors do not share multiple interests which could explain the relegation of football to the water cooler section. In defense of the policy, Net54 was set up to be a vintage baseball forum.

Shoot me an email and we can discuss some potential outlets to discuss vintage football.

[Leon]

Thanks for the suggestion on the forums. Unfortunately I can't seem to always make them work (and align) the way I want them to. The Watercooler section and the newly formed autograph section are both in physical places I didn't want but it's all I could do. I will continue trying to make it better without sacrificing the main focus....regards

[smotan_02]

Im just happy to have a place to call home. We just need to use what we have. I appreciate Jeff's increase in activity and his push for others to post more.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Leon

Great suggestion. So how does one make the forum more football friendly?

A lobotomy and some tight pants?

I kid my knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing friends...

Seriously, all sports cards have investment potential if you get in at the right price. What is missing for the non-baseball sports is liquidity. Fewer collectors = tougher to liquidate at the best prices.

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

A lobotomy and some tight pants?

I kid my knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing friends...

Seriously, all sports cards have investment potential if you get in at the right price. What is missing for the non-baseball sports is liquidity. Fewer collectors = tougher to liquidate at the best prices.

Recent auction results for football cards have been very strong so either these few collectors are spending some serious cash or more and more collectors are moving into football. It's probably a combination of both but I believe the latter is drive prices up substantially.

jeff

[BigRedOne]

First off, Cards have never been an "investment" for me. They are purely nostalgic entertainment to me. While I know you have to play the "money" game from time to time to help support one's collecting habits, I don't believe Ive ever bought a card with the sole purpose of trying to sell it for a profit.

I just love the cards for the nostalgic hisory of the game and the joy they bring me when I look through my sets.

While I know we all like to feel our cards hold some monetary value, It wouldn't bother me the least if the bottom fell out of the card market and they held no value other than the sentimental value they had just as when you was a kid.

I know it won't ever happen but it was a much better hobby before all the
"whats it worth" and "Priceguide" collectors got involved for no other reason than to try and make profits.

Now for some cards!