Are there any player's autographs that you refuse to collect?

HOF Auto Rookies · #1 04-24-2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 39special

How many home runs do you think Ruth would have hit if he took steriods?

No clue, different game from then and now. But to be honest, I think Bonds and Ruth would still have very close home run totals regardless of steroids or not. I think they easily would have hit 900-1,000 if they didn't walk as much as well. I do believe is one of the greatest hitters of all time. I love Ruth, but he was a hitter, he didn't do it all. But again, this is all my opinion, so please just take it with a grain of salt.

39special · #2 04-24-2012, 11:37 AM

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No clue, different game from then and now. But to be honest, I think Bonds and Ruth would still have very close home run totals regardless of steroids or not. I think they easily would have hit 900-1,000 if they didn't walk as much as well. I do believe is one of the greatest hitters of all time. I love Ruth, but he was a hitter, he didn't do it all. But again, this is all my opinion, so please just take it with a grain of salt.

I was just wondering.Not just Ruth,but Mays,Aaron,T.Williams.I not sticking up for players that used,just wondered what the record book would look like if
roids would have been around back then.

HOF Auto Rookies · #3 04-24-2012, 01:43 PM

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I was just wondering.Not just Ruth,but Mays,Aaron,T.Williams.I not sticking up for players that used,just wondered what the record book would look like if
roids would have been around back then.

I understand, honestly, I don't think it would be as construed as people think. Steroids will only help so much, the rest is upon the individual. You still have to be able to do your job in hitting the ball etc. Averages may go up a few tenths of a point at best, and home runs maybe around 35-50 more per career I'd say. Those close balls hit to the track or off the fence could go over.

earlywynnfan · #4 04-24-2012, 03:16 PM

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I understand, honestly, I don't think it would be as construed as people think. Steroids will only help so much, the rest is upon the individual. You still have to be able to do your job in hitting the ball etc. Averages may go up a few tenths of a point at best, and home runs maybe around 35-50 more per career I'd say. Those close balls hit to the track or off the fence could go over.

I think you miss the reason for taking steroids, at least for a baseball player. It's not to make you much stronger, it's to keep your body in top shape. A normal body wears down after exertion, so over the course of a 162-game season, anyone will have lulls in performance. But on steroids, the body bounces back at an extremely high rate, meaning there are no lulls, therefore players can play at peak for every single game. That's why so many on the busted list were relievers. There have been many in baseball's history who have come out of the gate at a much higher HR rate than Ruth or even Maris, but by the end of the season they've worn down. This is how Mac, BB, and Sammy kept the pace going.

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

HOF Auto Rookies · #5 04-24-2012, 04:07 PM

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I think you miss the reason for taking steroids, at least for a baseball player. It's not to make you much stronger, it's to keep your body in top shape. A normal body wears down after exertion, so over the course of a 162-game season, anyone will have lulls in performance. But on steroids, the body bounces back at an extremely high rate, meaning there are no lulls, therefore players can play at peak for every single game. That's why so many on the busted list were relievers. There have been many in baseball's history who have come out of the gate at a much higher HR rate than Ruth or even Maris, but by the end of the season they've worn down. This is how Mac, BB, and Sammy kept the pace going.

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

No I totally agree with that. And in some of my earlier posts I emphasized on how steroids are popularily used as a means in recovering from surgeries.

mr2686 · #6 04-24-2012, 04:21 PM

Ok, well if you agree with that, then how can you say that a players avg would only go up a few tenths of a point and only 35 - 50 homeruns (per career) if they are performing at a constant peak level?

HOF Auto Rookies · #7 04-24-2012, 04:25 PM

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Ok, well if you agree with that, then how can you say that a players avg would only go up a few tenths of a point and only 35 - 50 homeruns (per career) if they are performing at a constant peak level?

Just because a player is taking steroids does not correlate to said player producing at that level consistently throughout the whole season. You REALLY think right now if Matt Kemp took steriods throughout the whole season that he would hit .450, 100 home runs, 230 rbi's, 172 runs and 276 hits as he's projected to do so? NO CHANCE!

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