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Old 04-27-2012, 03:16 PM
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it is obviously raw, but i think some people think it would grade a 4 or 5.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:22 PM
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I was there last April, and they had 2 Wagners. There are two areas where they had cards displayed. One only had about 6-8 cards, including a Wagner, a '33 Goudey Lajoie, a T206 Matty, and if memory serves, a Ruth and a Shoeless Joe. In another room, which was at the end of a cricket exhibit, there was a more thorough collection of cards, which included another Wagner, and cards up through the '80s.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:45 PM
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it is obviously raw, but i think some people think it would grade a 4 or 5.
Curious... My memory is clouded... Did Mr Burdick donate this card to the Hall? Or at least one of the Wags?
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I thought it was Halper but I could be wrong.
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I thought it was Halper but I could be wrong.
Yep it is
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Old 04-27-2012, 07:19 PM
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Looks ex - ex+ to me. Halper sold it to the HOF (or maybe MLB who donated it). He gave them first dibs on his collection before publicly auctioning the rest.
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Yes -- but Halper did not donate it! I think Halper sold it to MLB, and MLB donated it to the Hall.
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Its been awhile since I have been, but I remember the Wagner being in lesser condition. I haven't seen this copy. The one I remember had rougher corners and a pinhole on top as memory serves me. Just seeing it reminds me of when I went to the Louvre in Paris and saw the Mona Lisa. I have been to the HOF 3 times and will always go back.
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My recollecton is that Mr. Burdick donated his collection to the Metropolitan Museum of Art.
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This is the copy that Lipset auctioned in the early 80's. Mastro bought it for $25,011. When Mastro acquired the Piedmont "8", he sold this one to Halper. When Halper sold his collection, MLB bought a portion of the collection (as I recall $8 million worth) and donated it to the HOF. This example was included in that sale. IMO, it is one of the top two examples known (the other one NOT being the "8").
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it is obviously raw, but i think some people think it would grade a 4 or 5.
I beleive this is the card that during the Mastro Live 2008 event, when they auctioned off their Jumbo Wagner, they stated that the oversized example at the Cooperstown HOF, would grade a 6 or 6.5 - it's boderline NM.

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If you haven't been there before, you might try Howe Caverns in Cobleskill or the Fly Creek Cider Mill in Fly Creek.
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If you haven't been there before, you might try Howe Caverns in Cobleskill or the Fly Creek Cider Mill in Fly Creek.
So not forger i go with my 5 month son hehe
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How many time it take to visite the hof? It take 1 day? It is big?
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It was most of a day in 1975 or 76.
And changing over from very old fashioned informal displays to modern quality museum displays. At the time the no-hit game balls from 1900 to current were in an obviously homemade case resting on pegboard hooks with 3x5 cards to identify the game.

I've really got to go again soon.


I'm not sure if they're still in the area, but there was a farming museum that had the cardiff giant, a hoax/scam from 1869. -Just checked, and they're still there, with a really neat carousel too.

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as i suggested in my first post, there is a great bed & breakfast (hotel) right near main st. in C-town, called "The Inn at Cooperstown". i highly recommend it.
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