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04-28-2012, 02:17 PM
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he has no idea if the autograph is good or not, and asked if he should take hunts word for it?
the listing did not list a cert at all, so of course you have to take hunt's word for it. just like lelands who does not use jsa or psa at all. if he didnt want to take hunts word for it, then dont bid on a listing with no certs listed. just because psa or jsa give a no opinion (and that's what it is concerning jsa, a no opinion, not a fail), that shouldnt then make it the auction houses problem. 
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04-28-2012, 02:21 PM
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IMO if the auction house chose to make the info re the attempted certification available to the live bidders then they owed the same consideration to the phone bidders.
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04-28-2012, 02:28 PM
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04-28-2012, 02:34 PM
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One important thing not to be overlooked here...
The auction catalog stated "Auction LOA from JSA." This is no longer on the website, which says that it likely had been there before, but when JSA came back unable to render a full opinion, they removed the auction LOA verbiage from the website listing. Had they gone with full disclosure, they would have stated why they removed the "Auction LOA" description which had been there at one time.
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04-28-2012, 02:59 PM
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Does Hunt? (Delehanty?)
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04-28-2012, 03:12 PM
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04-28-2012, 04:23 PM
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just because lelands has auto experts and hunts doesnt in your opinion, so what? you knew that going in.
You entered into a contract to buy a signed photo without a cert, then when you find out you cant get one from a company that you want one from, you make it hunts problem? they didnt list a cert, so there is no guarantee for a cert. that's the way it works. doesnt mean it is a fake autograph. jsa gave a no opinion, not a fail. why are you acting like its fake? you bid so you should pay. its what cheeses me off, and reminds me of a high priced boxing autograph that the buyer liked a lot, and said it looked good, paid for the item, and then when jsa and psa either gave a no opinion or a fail, wanted his money back from the seller, and when the seller stuck to his guns, the seller got sued, but thankfully won the case. just because the buyer couldnt get his favorite guys to give it a cert, does not make it the sellers problem. the buyer could have gotten all the opinions he wanted AHEAD OF TIME, and asked anybody he wanted ahead of time. he didn't. that's his problem. both this boxing autograph i am referring to and this williams has not been proven a fake, but since the buyer is more interested in the cert than the autograph, the problems start and thats why the hobby has been going downhill since the tpa's started the "unless we give it a cert, it is not good" type nonsense, and the collectors fell for it. Last edited by travrosty; 04-28-2012 at 04:23 PM.
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And just as an aside, its incredible some of the prices being realized for stuff that has been going unsold on eBay for years. Most of the massed produced Green Diamond stuff is going for ridiculous and unreasonable prices.
$1k for a single signed Bobby Brown baseball? They can't give these away anywhere else. Last edited by Splinte1941; 04-28-2012 at 04:58 PM.
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