Need Information on a 1952 Topps Frank House "Yellow' Tigers Logo Variation Card

[ALR-bishop]

David---good info, thanks, and congrats on your discovery. Did you see the Lemke article on it. It is on his Blog. From what you know does the variation as you understand it appear only on white/cream back cards. If will have to check my yellow TIGER again ( apologies to Detroit fans, I am a Cardinals guy), which has a white back, to see if it meets your criteria. The Tiger is definitely yellow rather than orange and the card is not otherwise faded as I recall

It is hard to tell from the scan but the one here does appear to have a gray back, and if it is, in it's apparent condition, it may have more value in that category.

It would be odd if the yellow "variation" existed in both gray and white/cream backs since their origin ( grays v whites) seems to have been separate

[flkersn]

There are several "variations" of this card. They run from the full color logo to the yellow/black logo. In between there are variations where the orange and red gradually disappear until all the is left is the yellow and black logo.

I would be surprised if there is a gray back version, since it would imply that the card stock was changed during the color depletion, or that the exact same depletion occurred during a separate run.

IMHO

[ALR-bishop]

I agree with you flkersn that it would be unlikely for the same defect to show up in what were likely different print runs, maybe by different printers since the fronts of the grays are also different from the regular cards. And, I think the original poster finally decided that his card is not a gray back

[toppcat]

I'm pretty sure Topps only used one printer for the 52's-Lord Baltimore Printing, of Baltimore, MD.

[Rich Klein]

Roger Neufeldt has/had both varieties at the Dallas Card Show this weekend. He showed me 3 copies of the "tougher" variety

Rich

[ALR-bishop]

I bought a full baseball subset of the Topps Push Pulls from Roger at one of the last decent shows in San Antonio years back. Great guy.

I am still not clear on how many versions of the House card are possible given the gray back version and different transition cards.

Dave was Lord Baltimore the same guy who helped track down Butch and The Kid ?

[Republicaninmass]

I'll go out on a limb here.

3 versions to make it easy

Partial red or no red with red "pixels" missing under loupe- cream

No red, no missing "pixels"-cream

No red, no missing "pixels"-gray