MLB teams that deserve more founding year historical credit

[Wite3]

Umm...where are the Phillies on this list...Worchester Ruby Legs were replaced in 1883 by the Philadelphia Phillies and they never looked back!

Joshua

[zljones]

Originally Posted by Wite3

Umm...where are the Phillies on this list...Worchester Ruby Legs were replaced in 1883 by the Philadelphia Phillies and they never looked back!

Joshua

Really? I had no idea about that, well then definately add that to the list if they came from the Ruby Legs.

[z28jd]

I had enough people after I wrote this article,
http://blogs.piratesprospects.com/hi...ear-ago-today/

ask me why the Pirates say 1887 all over the place for their first year, that I wrote this article

http://blogs.piratesprospects.com/hi...-1882-or-1887/

As you can see by the dates, they are very recent. Teams have an odd way of recognizing their own beginnings. I read that the Cardinals didn't want to acknowledge their 10,000th win in franchise history because the first ten years worth of wins happened in the AA. A group of fans protested it, rightfully so. They wanted to wait until they reached 10,000 NL wins to celebrate it

[FrankWakefield]

The Cards should have counted the AA games.... MLB would. I'm a Cards fan.

The Cubs have a bunch of wins. Earlier this season, while discussing the standings with a Reds fan, I was told that wins against the Cubs shouldn't count...

The Phillies on the list... maybe it's 'cause he was talking about historical and deserving, not just historical.

Just a few provocative jabs to stir things a bit...

[jcmtiger]

Why are the Detroit Tigers last in your list?

Joe

[scooter729]

Since the Orioles were originally the St. Louis Browns who moved in '53 or '54, why doesn't that date them to 1901 instead of 1894?

The Temple Cup teams from 1894 with Hughie Jennings et al aren't the same Orioles as the team there today, so is there an older connection than 1901?

[drumback]

The Baltimore Orioles of the 1890s eventually became the New York Yankees.

[zljones]

Originally Posted by drumback

The Baltimore Orioles of the 1890s eventually became the New York Yankees.

From my understanding the Baltimore Orioles from 1892-1899 were dead in 1899. The Baltimore Orioles from 1901 that became the New York Highlanders in 1903 then the Yankees by 1912 were not the same group at all as the 1882-1899 Orioles, not any part of it from my understanding.

[zljones]

Originally Posted by scooter729

Since the Orioles were originally the St. Louis Browns who moved in '53 or '54, why doesn't that date them to 1901 instead of 1894?

The Temple Cup teams from 1894 with Hughie Jennings et al aren't the same Orioles as the team there today, so is there an older connection than 1901?

Before they were the St. Louis Browns in 1901, they were the Milwaukee Brewers in the Western League which became the American League.

[drumback]

I stand corrected. Wasn't thinking clearly. . However, it was a couple of the 1890s Orioles, McGraw and Robinson, who led the way in bringing about the 1901 Orioles, who eventually became the Yankees.

[esd10]

i believe that the 1919 cincinnati reds need to get more credit they where a very good there record was 96-44 and had some great players and a hofer in edd roush.

[zljones]

Originally Posted by jcmtiger

Why are the Detroit Tigers last in your list?

Joe

No reason