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Old 05-21-2012, 12:15 PM
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And don't forget anything that goes through the mail can involve the US Postal Inspectors. They have way more authority than some folks are aware of. Their authority is Federal so they can cross some boundaries (I think) that local law enforcement might not be able to.
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:33 PM
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Good luck, Greg. Based on my experience, getting claims through ebay is much better than paypal also. You would think that it would be the same since they are the same company, but it's not the case.
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Yes Gary is right. Going through eBay is much easier than PayPal in my experience too. Same company but they have very different ways of handling things. Good luck Greg.
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.....Please ship the items listed as "Granted" below back to the seller. The
items should be in their original condition and you are responsible for
shipping and handling costs.

160783078432: Hank Greenberg 1938 Goudey #253 Baseball Card
Outcome: granted

Seller's address:
1486 raphael ct
san jacinto, CA 92583
United States

Once you've shipped the item(s), please log in to your PayPal account and
visit the Resolution Center to provide online tracking information for the
package.

This tracking information is necessary because it confirms that the package
was delivered.....



LINK to tracking https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfi...50000387554315
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The fake card returned to my mail box yesterday

My wife called and asked for ebay. They said they could not help because Paypal was working it
- ebay asked my wife for the address the felon provided and confirmed that the one linked to his ebay account was different than the one he provided as a return address.
- therefore, because they are one and the same, ebay/paypal knowingly had me spend money sending the fake card to an address that doesn't exist. Or are they the same?
- I received a message from Paypal yesterday, after the card returned, demanding we provide proof of shipping by May #### or else the case would be closed with no refund. Yes, the date was comprised of pound signs.
- I emailed pictures of the returned package, including postage marks , etc to Paypal and am waiting to hear back.
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Greg:

All I can say is that situation you're in absolutely sucks. Good for you being tough about getting your money back. Not a knock or derail here, but its ironic ther is a ethical debate thread on pp/ebay at the moment. I wonder how much time their CEOs think about ethical treatment towards their dollars, I mean customers.
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And don't forget anything that goes through the mail can involve the US Postal Inspectors. They have way more authority than some folks are aware of. Their authority is Federal so they can cross some boundaries (I think) that local law enforcement might not be able to.
Plus there's no statute of limitations on postal crimes. In theory they could come after someone 20 years from now for misusuing a priority box....Not that they'd bother over one or two.

The stuff I learn at the stamp club
(We have a local PM of a large facility give a talk about some aspect of the mail once a year)

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The library charged 3.00 to fax three pages, so the total hassle this week is at 5.80. The felon's total spent is 0.00 and total time invested is probably five minutes since the very beginning, which is the amount of time his reply to them took. Reverand sleeveless...

I'd bet they're still not satisfied even though I gave them what they wanted again.
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