Moral of story: don't sell an altered card. Sorry that I have to out a fellow member.

[christopher.herman]

Originally Posted by JMANOS

Card measures fine it has a goofy cut, I dont think the card is altered at all. I have alot of 1948 Leaf that have the same issue. Sorry my opinion.

Your "opinion" flies directly in the face of third party (albeit subjective in itself but well established/documented) evidence, constructive board etiquette and general ethics.

Your lack of insight into your clearly deceptive tactics makes you a liability on this board (and to the hobby at large) as well as to anyone with whom you may conduct transactions.

~Christopher

Originally Posted by christopher.herman

Your "opinion" flies directly in the face of third party (albeit subjective in itself but well established/documented) evidence, constructive board etiquette and general ethics.

Your lack of insight into your clearly deceptive tactics makes you a liability on this board (and to the hobby at large) as well as to anyone with whom you may conduct transactions.

~Christopher

Wow some strong words for someone that is a newby here and doesn't know J at all. You have better odds of being removed for comments than him for giving his own opinion about his card.

Bought a M116 from TBOB just before Nationals last yr. He sold it as trimmed. Graded a SGC 6. I looked it over and seen nothing wrong and submitted it. Am I supposed to tell the buyer I bought it raw as trimmed but TPG said its a 6 now????


I have a T205 Lee FS on Ebay. I believe 100% that this card is a scrap card. Void of gold boarder, wavy right side, appearance of gold boarder on left side where other card joined the sheet, and it's trashed. I don't care what anyone else says. You can't see it in person, hold it, or loupe it over a screen. I have handled 1000's and 1000's of T205's and although I am no said expert I do know my 205's quite well. Not everyone shares the same opinion though. So if I sent to PSA and it came back Altered because the right side is cut with scissors and the left side appears to have gotten a full straight snip then am I supposed to believe them now. Stop making an issue because he is gonna make a profit off a card he bought. If he guarantees a refund on the card who cares. Making mountains out of ant hills IMO.

[kcohen]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

Wow some strong words for someone that is a newby here and doesn't know J at all. You have better odds of being removed for comments than him for giving his own opinion about his card.

Andrew - To me and many other forum members who predate me, YOU are a newbie. So what's your point? Should I and other more long-standing members disregard YOUR opinion on that basis, or say that you have no right to state one? Is there something in the NET54 handbook regarding how long you are a newbie and thus must refrain from making such comments? Or is there an unwritten rules area like in baseball?

For the record, I feel that failure to disclose pertinent information constitutes a clear ethical lapse. Regardless of your opinion of PSA, their opinion is clearly relevant and the matter of who is the more qualified card evaluator (impossible to determine) is irrelevant.

Ken

[christopher.herman]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

Wow some strong words for someone that is a newby here and doesn't know J at all. You have better odds of being removed for comments than him for giving his own opinion about his card.

Bought a M116 from TBOB just before Nationals last yr. He sold it as trimmed. Graded a SGC 6. I looked it over and seen nothing wrong and submitted it. Am I supposed to tell the buyer I bought it raw as trimmed but TPG said its a 6 now????


I have a T205 Lee FS on Ebay. I believe 100% that this card is a scrap card. Void of gold boarder, wavy right side, appearance of gold boarder on left side where other card joined the sheet, and it's trashed. I don't care what anyone else says. You can't see it in person, hold it, or loupe it over a screen. I have handled 1000's and 1000's of T205's and although I am no said expert I do know my 205's quite well. Not everyone shares the same opinion though. So if I sent to PSA and it came back Altered because the right side is cut with scissors and the left side appears to have gotten a full straight snip then am I supposed to believe them now. Stop making an issue because he is gonna make a profit off a card he bought. If he guarantees a refund on the card who cares. Making mountains out of ant hills IMO.

Ethics 101.
Lesson 1: Principle of Full Disclosure.

"Newby" or not, I have bought, sold and traded with dozens of members here with (seemingly) honest results.

This thread has been very informative and eye-opening as to who shares my views. Thank you.