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Old 05-28-2012, 11:22 AM
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Jason,

Just one question. You indicate you know what it is like to be falsely accused. The point is that I sold Jim the card with the "Altered" label. The label was not included in the listing and the word "altered" was added later after this thread was posted and the thread was posted after Jim was e-mailed via eBay to put the word "altered" in the listing. What is false? A material fact was left out of the listing and an eBay buyer with a rating over 200 has bought the card.

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Old 05-28-2012, 11:30 AM
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One of the big problem I have with it is that Jim also sells graded cards, why doesn't he crack them out and apply his own grade to them? If he sold strictly raw I would have no problem with it. But he is picking and choosing when the TPGs are convenient for his profit making and if some gets misinformed tough luck.

At always amazing me with people that support questionable dealers and deals. Legendary keeps ticking with basically the same people minus the Mastro name,. What makes them any different than the past?

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Old 05-28-2012, 02:53 PM
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And I think what makes this person different (than others on ebay who sell a possibly-altered card w/o mention of the possible alteration as it happens all the time) is that this one buys/sells on our b/s/t. Hits a little closer to home
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:27 PM
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Brian Van Horn


I didnt clarify too well. I am not saying that Jim was falsely accused. I just know when I had been, a trainwreck followed. I just simply was implying that it isn't right to railroad a veteran board member and drive this into the ground. As the auction description stands now, I have no problem with it.

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Old 05-28-2012, 03:34 PM
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Jason,

For the most part I agree. The only concern I have now is whether the buyer is aware of the PSA decision on the card.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:34 PM
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I am not defending him.....we all have the right to list and sell how we choose. If I do not like a seller's moral disposition or I find the item somewhat suspicious I just simply do not bid or avoid them altogether. Perhaps if everyone did the same, the message would be sent.........again buy beware. Kharma always has a way of showing up. I think personally this one hit close to home for Mr. Van Horn and he is upset about it. While I am all for raising awareness to rip offs on ebay and false information, again it is buy beware and the fact Jim put in the description that it may be altered, I have no problem with it. I am guessing that a few that responded here has had cards bumped in resubs, or cards even trimmed or altered in previous submissions resubmitted. I personally have had issues with 3rd party grading in the past.


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