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Old 11-29-2023, 07:55 PM
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Good point. Here's an interesting article on Kent's HOF candidacy. I guess he could go either way.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...20/2818324001/
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Jones seems to fall into that messy area with Dale Murphy and Don Mattingly where they had a strong peak, but then fell off a cliff due to injuries, but kept playing. I have to wonder for all three, had they left the game quickly, like Ralph Kiner, if they would garner more support.
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Old 11-30-2023, 07:44 AM
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Jones seems to fall into that messy area with Dale Murphy and Don Mattingly where they had a strong peak, but then fell off a cliff due to injuries, but kept playing. I have to wonder for all three, had they left the game quickly, like Ralph Kiner, if they would garner more support.
Utley could also end up with this group.
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Old 11-30-2023, 08:12 AM
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Andruw Jones was a good player but when I think of other fringe outfielders who did make it into the Hall, I think they all had more overall productive careers than he did. Guys like Billy Williams, Jim Rice, Vlad, Larry Walker, etc. I don't think Jones was in their class. They were productive deep into their careers and he just wasn't good for very long at all.

He was a 250 career hitter and he didn't hit 500 homers. Not sure he really has a place.

HOFers with the lowest career batting averages:

Ray Schalk - 253
Rabbit Maranville - 258
Harmon Killebrew - 256

Andruw Jones - 254

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I know Jones was a great outfielder, but he's just not a HOFer in my book. I think it would take some revisionist history to put him in, but the Hall does that sometimes.
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Nice write-ups. I enjoyed the Victor Martinez bio where you noted that he finished 2nd in MVP voting to Trout in 2014.

I should have used that as a zinger when I was using Vic Mart as a comp for Trout earlier this year. Some were getting a little hangry and testy that I was not showing Trout enough respect. Like Trout, only ardent baseball fans know Martinez's name.
Glad you enjoyed the write ups? Martinez was better than a lot of people remember. Heck of a player. As a Red Sox fan, I enjoyed his time in Boston.

Personally, I'm shocked to hear that people on the internet were being testy. Never come across that before.
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