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Old 09-27-2022, 06:06 PM
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Default Wainwright in the hall?

Iím just looking at Adam Wainwright and heís a very close comp for Roy Halladay. It seems like he should be in or very close if the hall considers Halladay a Hofer. Thoughts?
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Old 09-27-2022, 06:11 PM
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Iím just looking at Adam Wainwright and heís a very close comp for Roy Halladay. It seems like he should be in or very close if the hall considers Halladay a Hofer. Thoughts?
Hall of very good IMO.
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Don't think he has the resume of Halladay (2 Cy Youngs, perfect game, playoff no hitter). I think of him like Tim Hudson. A very good pitcher in a tough time to be one. But not elite.
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Wainwright was never dominant enough and his career stats are not particularly impressive. If he retires after this year, it is unlikely he will even get to 200 wins. A career WAR of 47.1 is just not good enough.

There are so many pitchers with career WARs in the 60s that have been passed by the Hall of Fame (for now): Cone, Tiant Rueschel, Kevin Brown. I don't think anyone with a career WAR in the 40s is going to get in any time soon.
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Wainwright was never dominant enough and his career stats are not particularly impressive. If he retires after this year, it is unlikely he will even get to 200 wins. A career WAR of 47.1 is just not good enough.

There are so many pitchers with career WARs in the 60s that have been passed by the Hall of Fame (for now): Cone, Tiant Rueschel, Kevin Brown. I don't think anyone with a career WAR in the 40s is going to get in any time soon.
Jack Morris just got in with a WAR of 43.5. 195 wins, a much better ERA than Morris and a big part of the Cards success through the years. Very unlikely by the writers, but a pretty typical Veterans selection.
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Jack Morris just got in with a WAR of 43.5. 195 wins, a much better ERA than Morris and a big part of the Cards success through the years. Very unlikely by the writers, but a pretty typical Veterans selection.
Jack Morris, along with a good chunk of the Veterans Committee selections, do not belong in the Hall of Fame. At this point, we've jumped the shark however, so it would not surprise me if Waino ended up in the Hall.

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Yeah, I donít see the comparison. A nearly 20 point difference in WAR + 2 Cy Youngís and 7 top 5 finishes for Halladay.

Wainwright very good, but I donít think comparing him to Halladay is the code cracker for him.
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Agree with above, and maybe not Molins either but what wonderful careers together and all with the same team.
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Agree with above, and maybe not Molins either but what wonderful careers together and all with the same team.
Wow, negative against Molina? In my book I agree with statements on Waino. But I'd hope Yadi gets in - although he might not be first ballot. I'm looking at him on Jaws, and he is one of the top of this generation, with a resume a bit better than Buster Posey. He (42 WAR) and Posey (44 WAR) are very close in WAR. I know a lot of catchers don't make the HOF, but this would be a shame. Jorge Posada is comparable to both, but he was never better than Piazza or Ivan Rodriguez.

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Yeah, I donít see the comparison. A nearly 20 point difference in WAR + 2 Cy Youngís and 7 top 5 finishes for Halladay.

Wainwright very good, but I donít think comparing him to Halladay is the code cracker for him.
Well said and agree not in the HOF
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Do I think Wainwright is a HOFer? No

Do I think he will get in, eventually? Yes.
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Iím just looking at Adam Wainwright and heís a very close comp for Roy Halladay. It seems like he should be in or very close if the hall considers Halladay a Hofer. Thoughts?
I havent checked but I always look at Andy Pettite as the cutoff (but i do think ANdy should be in due to the playoffs success)
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