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Old 09-20-2020, 06:02 PM
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Ok how about if we ran across some raw real Polar Bears, then what would the premium be???

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I feel like a polar bear back is maybe worth 20%-40% more than a common back, depending on the player (and excluding Demmitt and O’Hara).

Here is a link to a back-multiplier table. There are several of these out on the web.

http://www.t206museum.com/page/price_list2.html
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I feel like a polar bear back is maybe worth 20%-40% more than a common back, depending on the player (and excluding Demmitt and O’Hara).

Here is a link to a back-multiplier table. There are several of these out on the web.

http://www.t206museum.com/page/price_list2.html

Thank you, this table is really helpful, although seems like it can be off from where these cards trade. For example, if I look at Art Fromme, it lists the base price at $25, and "EX" condition would have a 2.5x multiplier - which equates to $60-65...

However, on VCP, in 2018/19, multiple PSA 5 Fromm's (Pied/Sweet Cap) sold for over $200, and this is pre-market boom. PSA 4s have gone for $100 recently.

Any thoughts on this?
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Thank you, this table is really helpful, although seems like it can be off from where these cards trade. For example, if I look at Art Fromme, it lists the base price at $25, and "EX" condition would have a 2.5x multiplier - which equates to $60-65...

However, on VCP, in 2018/19, multiple PSA 5 Fromm's (Pied/Sweet Cap) sold for over $200, and this is pre-market boom. PSA 4s have gone for $100 recently.

Any thoughts on this?
I would use the back multiplier pricing from this website, but not necessarily the single card base pricing. T206 cards across the board definitely have seen some substantial increases in the past couple of years, and although the base card pricing may be out of date on many (most) of the cards listed, the back multiplier chart should still apply. Just use recent prices as your guide, and then apply the back multiplier.
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Wid,

The T206 set is far too complicated to use any kind of ‘back multiplier’ to derive accurate valuations.

Instead, just continue to research each individual card, like you did with Fromme

That is by far your best bet.

Eventually, (I’m 12 years into the set) You will just know the values of most. But, with over 5500 combinations out there, when you come across something you have not seen, revert back to the research (Past sales are best)

Best Of Luck, these things are more addictive than crack!

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Wid,

The T206 set is far too complicated to use any kind of ‘back multiplier’ to derive accurate valuations.

Instead, just continue to research each individual card, like you did with Fromme

That is by far your best bet.

Eventually, (I’m 12 years into the set) You will just know the values of most. But, with over 5500 combinations out there, when you come across something you have not seen, revert back to the research (Past sales are best)

Best Of Luck, these things are more addictive than crack!

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Thank you for the response. This is pretty much what I have doing, and its served well thus far.
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Agreed. Best you can do is make some general assumptions, but that’s only a start. Some combos are super difficult, and thus more expensive; especially when multiple people are chasing the same back set. The popularity of certain backs wax and wane; for example, I feel like polar bears are hot and EPDG a bit cool right now, but EPDG used to be the bees’ knees. Then, for backs like Sovereign and cycle, you have different series (of course you have that too with Piedmont and Sweet Cap plus factory numbers).

T206 is such a beast it’s called the monster. It’s much too difficult to make firm rules about the value of any back, other than maybe putting them in groupings and these are the two top groups/classes, and In a place above the rest

Most valuable
Brown Old Mill
Brown Lenox
Broadleaf 460
Drum
Uzit

Second tier
Black Lenox
Red Hindu
Broadleaf 350
Carolina Brights

I would also include blank backs, t213-1 and t215-1, but the latter two may be fighting words to some the board.

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I feel like a polar bear back is maybe worth 20%-40% more than a common back, depending on the player (and excluding Demmitt and O’Hara).

Here is a link to a back-multiplier table. There are several of these out on the web.

http://www.t206museum.com/page/price_list2.html
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