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Old 04-15-2021, 10:58 AM
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Default ESPN Article on PSA

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...rd-submissions

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Old 04-15-2021, 12:40 PM
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Old 04-15-2021, 01:35 PM
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Informative read. I had no idea that people like Mr. Crenshaw existed. Call me naive. As a long-time collector it creeps me out a bit that this piece portrays a hobby that is all about chasing the almighty dollar through grading. Yes, I am aware that my cards have increased in value in the past year. Nothing wrong with that. But I am glad that my active days as a collector are (for the most part) in the rearview mirror. Peace.

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Thx for sharing...

So, why would AI grading be such a bad idea? It’s still a “buy the card, not the case” opportunity but I’d think technology could help to objectively measure corners, color brightness, centering, detect trimming, etc

Curious why technology would NOT be better than what we have now?
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Thx for sharing...

So, why would AI grading be such a bad idea? It’s still a “buy the card, not the case” opportunity but I’d think technology could help to objectively measure corners, color brightness, centering, detect trimming, etc

Curious why technology would NOT be better than what we have now?

Technology would be great for the honest guys, AI is not good for the card doctors and gamblers who love to take chances and cut corners. I think the Grading Companies as they are comprised of would be totally against AI grading.

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Thx for sharing...

So, why would AI grading be such a bad idea? It’s still a “buy the card, not the case” opportunity but I’d think technology could help to objectively measure corners, color brightness, centering, detect trimming, etc

Curious why technology would NOT be better than what we have now?
It would clearly be better. The eye appeal point is, frankly, stupid. That's the one thing we definitely don't need third party graders to tell us.
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Maybe it's good for the new generation to learn condition all on their own. Who knows??
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Well, it's Jackie Robinson day/weekend, and the Reds won. Feeling good ankit those. And the article sucked because they interviewed Probstein. And I still buy ungraded. And now I'm getting jollies out of minor league cards which seem to not be affected by current market conditions.

And although I like politics and talking politics, and talking theory, I always appreciate commentary by PerezFan and Exhibitman.

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It's a damn shame what has happened to this great hobby. Yes, I am bitter that a good amount of cards I need to complete my vintage sets are out of my reach. It is also a joke that many cards that I do have are way overpriced because of all the new people in the hobby. It's sad that if I want to buy a blaster box at Target, I have to get in line in the middle of the night behind about 30 cockroaches and it doesn't even guaranty that I will get anything. PSA has become the necessary evil in our hobby. A company in Oregon has now done more harm to our hobby than good. Remember, we had grading before PWCC. Grading wasn't perfect and was somewhat of a scam but we could deal with it. Now we are having to live with the investor side that is driving up prices even on poor condition vintage cards. I am waiting for the dust to settle and can't wait for the greediness to bail out of the hobby. But when they do jump ship, I think it will be to late. Experience tells me that dealers will not budge on the high prices that we are seeing now. In all honesty, with all that is going right now, it has made me hate this hobby. That's what greed will do.

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