PSA/SGC Waiting Lines At 2019 National

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

So the hobby will move forward with the recognition by all or most collectors that there will be altered cards regularly offered for sale. In a logical world, any hint that a high grade card might be altered would result in a deep discount, since most collectors would recognize the high probability of not getting an actual high grade card.

But in the bizarro way our hobby has evolved, those very cards will continue to set world records. Why is it that no matter how many times I think about this, I still can't seem to accept the stupidity of it.

It's like selling horse meat and calling it filet mignon. It's selling spam and calling it caviar. It makes no f#cking sense.

Because you won't accept that the flip, not the card, is now the commodity for some people.

[VintageBen]

SGC's lines will be longer this yr, because I think their computer system crashed last year.... all i know is that there wasn't any buzz near the SGC compound

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by VintageBen

SGC's lines will be longer this yr, because I think their computer system crashed last year.... all i know is that there wasn't any buzz near the SGC compound

Reduced by not taking autographs though

[pokerplyr80]

When I went 2 years ago I don't remember ever seeing many people lined up at SGC, BGS had a decent crowd. I waited 20 or 30 minutes to have a couple modern cards reviewed. And the line at PSA was practically out of the building the entire time. As many in the hobby haven't even heard of this scandal I wouldn't expect much to change.

[mechanicalman]

As flawed as they are, I think the TPGs will do just fine at the National, as they still represent a better opinion than a biased seller. Case in point: there’s a dude selling a 51 Bowman Mantle on a popular Internet chat board. He repeatedly calls it “centered” even though, it may be, at best, 75/25 on the x axis. So, as long as sellers continue to oversell their cards with puffery and spin, there will be a market for third party grading to provide an objective, if not occasionally inaccurate, opinion.

[oldjudge]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

As flawed as they are, I think the TPGs will do just fine at the National, as they still represent a better opinion than a biased seller. Case in point: there’s a dude selling a 51 Bowman Mantle on a popular Internet chat board. He repeatedly calls it “centered” even though, it may be, at best, 75/25 on the x axis. So, as long as sellers continue to oversell their cards with puffery and spin, there will be a market for third party grading to provide an objective, if not occasionally inaccurate, opinion.

+1

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Because you won't accept that the flip, not the card, is now the commodity for some people.

I understand the reason, but a flip is not a commodity. It's a piece of paper with some information typed on it. The baseball card is the commodity. That's why I call it a bizarro world.

When I decide to sell my Honda CR-V, I'm going to put a "Rolls Royce for Sale" sign on it. I'll let you know how I do.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I understand the reason, but a flip is not a commodity. It's a piece of paper with some information typed on it. The baseball card is the commodity. That's why I call it a bizarro world.

When I decide to sell my Honda CR-V, I'm going to put a "Rolls Royce for Sale" sign on it. I'll let you know how I do.

Wrong. For many out there, the flip is the commodity now. Accept it, stop resisting, deal with it lol.

[barrysloate]

Of course I understand it Peter. I'm simply rejecting it with every ounce of energy I have left.

[Peter_Spaeth]

These are assets, son, not baseball cards. Just ask the visionary from Lake Oswego.