Insights into probable T206 uncut sheets

[tedzan]

There exists regular production uncut sheets of......OBAK's, E-cards (e.g., E93), etc.), all 10 sheets of the 1933 GOUDEY set, 1934 GOUDEY Hi #
sheet (with #106 Lajoie), all three 1941 PLAY BALL sheets, and many uncut sheets of LEAF, BOWMAN & TOPPS cards. However no regular prod-
uction T206 sheets have been found.
I find this very mystifying, since we know that Millions of T206's were printed.


Here is my simulation of what I think a complete 48-card sheet representing the 460 Series might have looked like (the cards are formatted alphabetically).


\................................................. ..........................................19-inch wide track............................................. ......................................./


My format of a 48-card sheet (or a 36-card sheet) is essentially based on these two factors......

1..Research shows that American Lithographic operated a 19-inch wide track printing press to produce many of their lithographic pieces (circa 1910).
2..As is presented below, the number of 48 cards (or multiples thereof) are a recurring factor in the make-up of the various T206 series........

150-only Series Subjects.....12 cards
150/350 Series Subjects....144 cards (48 x 3)........PIEDMONT & SWEET CAPORAL (Factory 30)
150/350 Series.......SOVEREIGN 350 No-Prints........48 cards missing from the complete run.
Southern Leaguers (OLD MILL & PIEDMONT 350).....48 cards
460-only Series......48 cards

Furthermore, the 1910 Coupon Major Leaguers.......48 cards from the T206 350 series......a complete sheet with the T213-1 backs printed on it.


I would appreciate any intelligent, constructive, and meaningful discussion regarding my premise as presented here. Or, any other differing conjectures
that you may have as to what format the T206's were printed in.


Thanks,

TED Z

[esd10]

if you ever read the book the card they had found a 4 or 5 t206 sheet in wagners pants pocket its really cool

[B O'Brien]

Ted,
I am still working to get a grasp of the sheet idea, sorry for being slow. I need small number to wrap my mind around this, so lets talk about the SC 150, 649 group of 34 cards.

Since your base number is 48, would there be 14 double print cards in this set? I have also seen you mention 12 as the magic number on the row number, would this be a 36 card sheet, with two double prints on the sheet?

If we are just talking about the SC150, 649 and the double print thought I have (based on 12 or 48 as the magic numbers), is in line with your thinking, any idea what the double prints might be?

Thanks,
Bob

[tedzan]

Notice, that I also mentioned a 36-card format......
"My format of a 48-card sheet (or a 36-card sheet) is essentially based on these two factors...."

The Sweet Cap 150, Factory #649 (overprint) subset consists of 35 subjects.
My theory is that American Litho. printed 36 subjects, but for unknown reasons never issued one.
My guess is that the card that was yanked was either Cobb or Plank.

Plank is a plausible candidate since he was issued with a Sweet Cap 150, Factory #30 back. And,
then they stopped issuing Plank cards. Also, recall that the Factory #649 stamp was overprinted
over the Sweet Cap 150, Factory #30 cards.

But then again, Cobb was also issued with the Sweet Cap 150, Factory #30 back.


TED Z

[B O'Brien]

OK Ted,
I got you now, at least as far as SC150, 649 goes. My mistake on the 34 instead of 35 cards.

That is a pretty neat sheet you have up there!

Hope all is well,
Bob

[canjond]

Maybe it was the Collins batting?

[cfc1909]

I am 99% sure that Sweet Cap 649 is a 34 card sub set with the 649 overprint bar covering factory 30.
There is a 1% chance I am wrong and will offer $200 if someone can produce a 35th card. Not a scan an actual card.
I believe the card in question is Nicholls hands on knees-I do not believe this card exist with Sweet Cap 649.

Also as far as sheets go I would think with all the 206s with the name at the top the cards have the same player vertical and probably 34 or 68 different players across.
With the millions of 206s around I would think they were printed in large sheets, at least bigger than 24. Just my opinion not fact.

Sweet Cap 649 = 34
Hindu south =34
Coupon 1 = 68

Also if there are 12 150 only cards-does that count Wagner or Magie?
They are 150 only.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by canjond

Maybe it was the Collins batting?

Jon, why do you say it was COllins batting in particular?

Zach Wheat