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Assuming that's true, it doesn't appear likely that relationship will continue if pwcc wants to stay in business. So where will the cards go next? Someone will submit them, and someone will sell them. I'm much more concerned with what's going on at PSA than how involved Brent is. It's easy to avoid one auction house or Ebay if necessary. But pretty tough if you can't trust any PSA graded card.
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Feels like Mastro and Allen all over again.
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How does this compare? The Masteo issues were so much worse if he did what they accused him of. A true shill bid is when a seller knows how much a buyer is willing to pay and then bid him up which is 100% theft. Pwcc offered refunds and also it would have been impossible for them to truly shill people because eBay was in the middle hiding the bid amounts.
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How about putting your name on your posts?
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I saw the twitter war between you and madeforwinter/sportscardradio. Do you think it would help to do one radio show where you can explain, discuss, and take questions from people? There are so many sites and threads about this, much gets lost in the facts and truth. Just a thought.
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Doug and Bill were probably a longer shot when all that was getting going.
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I just think it would be really, really hard to prove that Brent knowingly accepted doctored cards on consignment. And even if you could prove it, I'm not sure exactly what you would charge him with? Wouldn't part of his defense be that the industry's most trusted third party authenticator said they were good?
I'm not defending him, just saying it would be really hard to get a conviction. Oh, what the hell. 4:1 odds. Jeff? |
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We have to have a time limit. What do you think is fair?
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Are you just talking about a bet on knowingly being part of a conspiracy which involves selling altered cards or is shilling part of the bet too? Because if the feds do look, I suspect that they will look at both, and maybe some other stuff as well.
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I don't think they'll have to look very far on the first prong, based on what I've seen on Blowout, and elsewhere.
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Tip of the iceberg. It’s gaining momentum. Even the doubters and supporters from the early Blowout threads are turning as they realize ALL graded cards are suspect.
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Why does Brent deserve jail time? Wasn’t he selling an authenticated 3rd party asset? And to my knowledge anyone who was unhappy with their purchase was given a refund. So if no one got hurt financially where is the punishable crime? Half the people on here have done worse things than this.
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Has PWCC contacted the buyers of your consignments and asked the buyers if they would like a refund as of yet? I could post the BODA Blowout thread if you would need help creating a list.
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*grabs popcorn*
This is going to go well. Why bump a 3 year old thread that wasn’t being discussed?
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So he can run very late damage control for his sales outlet.
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What sales outlet lol? I closed down the company. I should bring it back as the hobby needs it but it’s too much work for little pay for me to do it again at this moment in time.
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Nobody really cares anymore. Opinions have been formed people have drawn their conclusions and that’s that The hobby/industry has moved on.
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realated to Scott Jaimet?
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Yup! He was my pops. If you knew him I’d love to hear about your relationship with that crazy bastard! Feel free to give me a call at (503) 351-0139.
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Hello, I don’t know if they did or not. Feel free to make a blowout thread. I stand behind anything I sell.
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