SGC Delays

[UKCardGuy]

I made my first SGC submission at the National on July 28th. It was a "take home" submission with a 5-10 day service expectation.

After 2 weeks, the only update that I have is that they received my cards.

I contacted customer service and I was told that they're having delays due to the volumes from the National and moving into their new HQ.

Anyone else experiencing delays at SGC?

I can handle delays but it's not great having no feedback about how long the delay is.

Gary G01db3rg

[MuncieNolePAZ]

I turned two cards in to SGC at National on 7/27 and they were graded yesterday. I’m got a shipping notice last night.

Thanks
Chad

[ClementeFanOh]

Hi Gary (long time, no talk-

I'll come at this from another angle. I did not attend the National this time;
however, I did make a regular submission to SGC (less than 10 cards via
mailing), that happened to arrive at SGC the day before the National began.
I thought it would be an interesting test case, to see if my "normally
submitted" cards got a delay at SGC due to the National intake...

My SGC cards just arrived today. I shipped on July 20 and received on
August 12, a 22-day turnaround. My SGC submissions have consistently
been at a 17/18 day turnaround, so I basically saw a slowdown of 1 business
week. Personally I think that's pretty good, given the glut of cards they likely
took in when compared with the norm. I feared it would turn into a month
or longer delay, which I wouldn't have liked. All in all, not bad. I hope you
see a result next week.

Trent King

[Republicaninmass]

Yes, 2 people.must have subbed at the national

Sorry to hear

[rman444]

23 cards submitted on 7/26 at the show. Still waiting at "received" status.

[UKCardGuy]

Thanks guys. Hopefully I see some progress next week.

[NATCARD]

I sent in 2 orders on july 28th. Received on August 2nd and Graded on August 11th. Now in post grading processing. Not much if any delay on these. Jeff W

[jethrod3]

I also submitted on-site on July 28 and haven't heard anything, but I submitted items that need larger slabs. Plus, with the great customer service I received during the submission process, the show specials and the fact that I saved on shipping my stuff to them, I'm happy waiting a little longer.

[UKCardGuy]

Last week, I was told by SGC that my order should hit the grading queue this week. Well, at the end of the week...nothing. No update...no change in status.

I can handle a delay but I'm not comfortable with the complete lack of transparency. Anyone else still waiting for their National take home submission?

[53toppscollector]

Here are my last 2 submissions:

Submitted: 6/18, Received 6/21, Graded 6/29, Shipped 6/30
Submitted: 7/14, Received 7/18, Graded 8/2, Shipped 8/3

Just submitted a new order last night, shipping it out today.

Hopefully they can clear out their backlog quickly.

[timn1]

Yes, I am in the same boat with my national submissions of 40 cards. I woould expect some movement soon.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Patience used to be a virtue, no?

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Patience used to be a virtue, no?

I guess that's the whole point of submitting to SGC - patience is optional.

I'm still waiting on my PSA submission from early May. It's currently at the "grading" stage. I'm guessing I've got 2-3 months left.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I guess. The point certainly isn't to get an accurate grade.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Patience used to be a virtue, no?

Hmmm... I think I've been pretty darn patient. SGC offer a service and they market it as a 5 to 10 day turnaround. It's now been between 2x and 4x longer than the service they're marketing.

I've sent polite enquiries and I've been for the last 2 weeks that my order should be graded the week following. This hasn't been the case. At the same time, others have had their submissions received after mind but craded ahead of mine.

Today I was told that my "submission is waiting to be graded." That's neither helpful nor transparent. I'm pretty sure that all submissions are waiting to be graded. That doesn't fill me with confidence. I'm happy to give more time, but I do expect to receive clarity about where I am in the queue and a reasonablely accurate ETA.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

Hmmm... I think I've been pretty darn patient. SGC offer a service and they market it as a 5 to 10 day turnaround. It's now been between 2x and 4x longer than the service they're marketing.

I've sent polite enquiries and I've been for the last 2 weeks that my order should be graded the week following. This hasn't been the case. At the same time, others have had their submissions received after mind but craded ahead of mine.

Today I was told that my "submission is waiting to be graded." That's neither helpful nor transparent. I'm pretty sure that all submissions are waiting to be graded. That doesn't fill me with confidence. I'm happy to give more time, but I do expect to receive clarity about where I am in the queue and a reasonablely accurate ETA.

That sounds like their response a few months back about some altered card that was called out that they would take whatever action was determined to be needed. The art of the truism.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

That sounds like their response a few months back about some altered card that was called out that they would take whatever action was determined to be needed. The art of the truism.

I think I'm going to start using that.... "can you take out the trash, dear?"

"I will take whatever action is determined to be needed"

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Patience used to be a virtue, no?

And good things are worth waiting for...cept in the case of your Senna card. Wrinkle? Bend? Residue on the back? Screams 9 or 10. Perfect reason to not submit to SGC. See so much of that over the last 18 months or so.

As has been chatted about, PSA and SGC seem to be in a pissing contest over who can screw the submitter deeper. Then you look at stuff that we know was submitting by auction houses and the cards are graded more in line with acceptable standards. Swear these guys grade on a 1 to 5 scale for the common man when it comes to vintage.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I think I'm going to start using that.... "can you take out the trash, dear?"

"I will take whatever action is determined to be needed"

Completely circular and meaningless, but it made it sound like they were being responsive. A politician could not have done it better. By the way, no action was ever taken, but that's OK, because people just move on.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

And good things are worth waiting for...cept in the case of your Senna card. Wrinkle? Bend? Residue on the back? Screams 9 or 10. Perfect reason to not submit to SGC. See so much of that over the last 18 months or so.

As has been chatted about, PSA and SGC seem to be in a pissing contest over who can screw the submitter deeper. Then you look at stuff that we know was submitting by auction houses and the cards are graded more in line with acceptable standards. Swear these guys grade on a 1 to 5 scale for the common man when it comes to vintage.

Chase, no wrinkle or bend and the back is perfectly clean. Indeed, funny you mention it but PSA also pissed on this card, but at least they gave it a 6 which at least conclusively rules out the wrinkle or bend possibility. IMO the kiddie graders they have hired see mostly perfect ultramodern and have no clue how to grade vintage. My whole SGC sub was badly undergraded.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Chase, no wrinkle or bend and the back is perfectly clean. Indeed, funny you mention it but PSA also pissed on this card, but at least they gave it a 6 which at least conclusively rules out the wrinkle or bend possibility. IMO the kiddie graders they have hired see mostly perfect ultramodern and have no clue how to grade vintage. My whole SGC sub was badly undergraded.

A 6 is even pathetic and I agree with the theory. 90% or more of what both companies are seeing has to be new stuff. They do not see it as an issue because cards keep coming in. It really needs to be addressed. This is where the human element in grading gets clouded--frame of reference.

[prestigecollectibles]

Comment about the delays from SGC
https://twitter.com/sgcgrading/statu...32307964796928

[JollyElm]

Any idea what the announcements he referred to will be? Hope it's a bulk discount.

[UKCardGuy]

Thanks Robert.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

My current submission (and first since 2019): Submitted 8/3, Received 8/8, Graded 8/17, and is now in post-grading processing. I was hoping the order would ship today, but I guess that didn't happen.

[frohme]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

I think I'm going to start using that.... "can you take out the trash, dear?"

"I will take whatever action is determined to be needed"

I'd love to hear how well that works for you!

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy

My current submission (and first since 2019): Submitted 8/3, Received 8/8, Graded 8/17, and is now in post-grading processing. I was hoping the order would ship today, but I guess that didn't happen.

My submission has progressed to Graded now. I've been told it should ship on Tuesday.

Received 7/28, Graded 8/18

Its only a 7 card submission. I can't wait to see the grades.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

My submission has progressed to Graded now. I've been told it should ship on Tuesday.

Received 7/28, Graded 8/18

Its only a 7 card submission. I can't wait to see the grades.

Good luck with the results!

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

My submission has progressed to Graded now. I've been told it should ship on Tuesday.

Received 7/28, Graded 8/18

Its only a 7 card submission. I can't wait to see the grades.

Show us the results in this thread when they arrive. Would be interested to see them... Thanks!

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Any idea what the announcements he referred to will be? Hope it's a bulk discount.

Almost every video he makes he alludes to announcements coming and how excited he is and to my knowledge he has never followed up with any announcements.

[jethrod3]

Just wondering...has anyone submitted items at the National and not received any communication at all yet?

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Show us the results in this thread when they arrive. Would be interested to see them... Thanks!

I have them in hand today.

Received 7/28, Graded 8/18, Delivered 8/25

The cards look great in the SGC holders. Some of the grades seem a little harsh but reasonable.

I'm a little surprised by the grade on the 1932 Sanella Ruth though. The corners are sharp, the back is clean and there's no creases or surface damage that I can see. I was hoping for at least a 6.

[gonefishin]

Nice cards - congrats. They look great.

[NATCARD]

Order of 151 cards received on 8/17. Graded on 8/23. Shipped back to me today 8/25. Not sure if they could do this any faster! Jeff W

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

I have them in hand today.



Received 7/28, Graded 8/18, Delivered 8/25



The cards look great in the SGC holders. Some of the grades seem a little harsh but reasonable.



I'm a little surprised by the grade on the 1932 Sanella Ruth though. The corners are sharp, the back is clean and there's no creases or surface damage that I can see. I was hoping for at least a 6.

They all look great, especially those 55s!

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[Jay Wolt]

Gary the Babe Ruth & Nolan Ryan look much better then a "4"
How are the card backs?
Nice batch of cards

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

I'm a little surprised by the grade on the 1932 Sanella Ruth though. The corners are sharp, the back is clean and there's no creases or surface damage that I can see. I was hoping for at least a 6.

Maybe its just my computer, but I feel like I see the slightest hint of a diamond cut. I may be wrong though.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

I have them in hand today.

Received 7/28, Graded 8/18, Delivered 8/25

The cards look great in the SGC holders. Some of the grades seem a little harsh but reasonable.

I'm a little surprised by the grade on the 1932 Sanella Ruth though. The corners are sharp, the back is clean and there's no creases or surface damage that I can see. I was hoping for at least a 6.

No creases on Jackie or Ryan either? If not, those two and the Sanella Ruth make little sense.

[UKCardGuy]

Originally Posted by perezfan

No creases on Jackie or Ryan either? If not, those two and the Sanella Ruth make little sense.

The Jackie has some staining on the back lower corner and there's a small wrinkle in the border of the Ryan. I missed that wrinkle on the Ryan before I submitted (Doh!). So those both seem fair.

The grade on the Sanella seems low. I can see now that the back isn't 100% perfect but a 4 still seems harsh.

[perezfan]

That makes more sense. Still perplexed about the Sanella Ruth though. There must be a tiny wrinkle on it somewhere.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by perezfan

That makes more sense. Still perplexed about the Sanella Ruth though. There must be a tiny wrinkle on it somewhere.

Or the grader had no clue, see my Senna above.

[1880nonsports]

for many of you - maybe buying cards and then sending them out for someone else to grade them might not be for you....... Some silly claims and downright whining. People looking at a SCAN in a holder in an online chat room and questioning grades. Same people calling balls and strikes from the nose bleed section.

[theshowandme]

Have a 22 card order that should arrive there today.

All of it is vintage non-sports. Excited for when it returns

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

Have a 22 card order that should arrive there today.

All of it is vintage non-sports. Excited for when it returns

Hopefully you will not get the same grader I did on my similar order. Good luck.

[53toppscollector]

Originally Posted by 53toppscollector

Here are my last 2 submissions:

Submitted: 6/18, Received 6/21, Graded 6/29, Shipped 6/30
Submitted: 7/14, Received 7/18, Graded 8/2, Shipped 8/3

Just submitted a new order last night, shipping it out today.

Hopefully they can clear out their backlog quickly.

It appears they are clearing the backlog:

20 card order

Submitted: 8/17
Received: 8/22
Graded: 8/28

[refz]

I submitted a 16 card order at the East Coast National 8/19. I really don’t give a hoot but am curious on the turnaround.

[todeen]

My latest order -- Received 8/28, Graded 8/31, and shipped 9/5.

Edit: Received 9/7.

My pre-war were low end, I didn't expect anything but 1s, but a couple got 1.5 bumps for eye appeal, I suppose.

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[parkplace33]

I wonder how grading at the National impacted return times (if at all).

[Yoda]

The grade on the Sanella Ruth is a travesty. 10 years ago it would have received at least a 7,

[ClementeFanOh]

Submitting a small group today, will see if they stick to the 2 1/2 weeks turnaround. Prewar and vintage baseball primarily. Trent King