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Old 07-23-2019, 02:20 PM
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Wow that’s bad real bad.....PSA is striking out big time.....
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:22 PM
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Card looked trimmed to begin with not sure how it got into a holder the second time whether or not it was recolored or just cleaned.
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Wowzers. Thanks Mark for the specific pages. Also, I vividly remember that Anson (both times) and checking back here on N54 to see if anyone was calling it out. Something certainly seemed fishy to me at the time.
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Old 07-23-2019, 06:15 PM
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Card looked trimmed to begin with not sure how it got into a holder the second time whether or not it was recolored or just cleaned.
Agree.....Peter.

So many bad bad cards in holders with grades.

I’m not giving PWCC or the Doctors a pass by any stretch however......

My question is will PSA lose it’s credibility in the industry ??

How can any auction houses Or dealer have confidence selling/auctioning cards in PSA holders that were not submitted by themselves??

I have a feeling this years national is gonna be scary for many dealers...idk
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Old 07-23-2019, 06:17 PM
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Agree.....Peter.

So many bad bad cards in holders with grades.

I’m not giving PWCC or the Doctors a pass by any stretch however......

My question is will PSA lose it’s credibility in the industry ??

How can any auction houses Or dealer have confidence selling/auctioning cards in PSA holders that were not submitted by themselves??

I have a feeling this years national is gonna be scary for many dealers...idk
Johnny I don't know. I think so many people may be so invested that it's going to be a case of the emperor's new clothes and people are just going to pretend nothing's wrong or if it is it's just message board chatter.
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Old 07-23-2019, 06:19 PM
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Johnny I don't know. I think so many people may be so invested that it's going to be a case of the emperor's new clothes and people are just going to pretend nothing's wrong or if it is it's just message board chatter.
I’m fearful of that as well Peter. We have both been around way to long to think otherwise....one can only hope.
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Old 07-23-2019, 06:19 PM
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Agree.....Peter.

So many bad bad cards in holders with grades.

I’m not giving PWCC or the Doctors a pass by any stretch however......

My question is will PSA lose it’s credibility in the industry ??

How can any auction houses Or dealer have confidence selling/auctioning cards in PSA holders that were not submitted by themselves??

I have a feeling this years national is gonna be scary for many dealers...idk
If PSA is paying out claims i see them raising their credibility. If you buy a raw card from someone and it turns out trimmed....good luck to you getting your money back
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This one takes the cake as the absolute worst of the worst to me

Ray Charles could have seen this....

Mr. Orlando could you please explain what’s your Opinion On this One??

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?p=14874068
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Old 07-24-2019, 10:55 AM
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This one takes the cake as the absolute worst of the worst to me

Ray Charles could have seen this....

Mr. Orlando could you please explain your Opinion On this One??

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?p=14874068
Wow!!

What a complete and utter joke PSA is!!
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This one takes the cake as the absolute worst of the worst to me

Ray Charles could have seen this....

Mr. Orlando could you please explain what’s your Opinion On this One??

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?p=14874068
You need to scroll up to see it...

Superdan coined it The Impressionist "Claude Monet Ruth"

In snobbish art critic voice...
I personally think it's more of an Abstract piece, with an influence that lies somewhere between Rothko and Pollock. Amazingly, the blades of grass appear both vertical and horizontal, with mixed shades of green that imply a subtle Moser influence as well. Reminiscent of a very early Moser masterpiece, circa kindergarten or perhaps first grade.

Bravo, PSA!
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57 Mantle 6 to 8
Refund pile.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...postcount=4608
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Old 07-23-2019, 03:59 PM
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Add one to the refund line.
Can wait 6 months or more, afterall what choice does he have...

doesnt even make the 5k or more list..
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