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Old 04-22-2013, 05:35 PM
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Default Holy Smokes Honus Wagner card....what is this card?

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Old 04-22-2013, 05:36 PM
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Ebay Item number: 221211385477

Is this card actually worth 250 000$ or close to that?

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The big striped bow tie is what sold me on it.
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:44 PM
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This whole thing looks more like smoke to me....but I may be very wrong!!!
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It is obvious to me that he is charging per typed word. He sure is long-winded.
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It was the C$ 0.97 that cancelled the deal.
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That's longer than the Unabomber's manifesto.
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Hahahaha you guys are funny!!!
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Ha Ha, the seller found the " card " at a flea market for $5.00. Makes LOTS of assumptions about the Super Monster Rare Wagner that this is in fact, a Wagner. After you buy the card, you can do the " Scientific " leg work to ensure the " card " is legit, as mentioned in a VERY long and rambling " description ". To boot, the seller also has some stained glass for sale to help you feel comfortable about ponying up a quarter of a million dollars. This guy is clearly in the know when it comes to vintage cards. Three " people " have made offers? Just when you think you may have seen it all......
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This is one of the craziest diatribes I've read. I had to stop halfway through. I made it to the "queen of baseball cards". Scrolled, read FBI facial recognition, and scrolled again. Hilarious.

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Wow, that thing has had three offers... I sure hope it wasn't you adrian

Even if it was proven to be Honus, I can't see it selling for anywhere near that much coin.
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I've seen a few pictures of a young Honus Wagner, and that does not resemble him on that card, in my opinion.

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This is one of the craziest diatribes I've read. I had to stop halfway through. I made it to the "queen of baseball cards". Scrolled, read FBI facial recognition, and scrolled again. Hilarious.

Thanks for sharing.
You actually got halfway through?

You're a better man than I, sir!
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Three offers????

Will P.T. Barnum be proven correct yet again?
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Adrian..... step AWAY from the Buy It Now button... easy now... easssssyyyyyy...



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Wow, that thing has had three offers... I sure hope it wasn't you adrian

Even if it was proven to be Honus, I can't see it selling for anywhere near that much coin.
Mine was one of them. Offered 5 bucks.

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Has to be one of the longest description in ebay history
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No not me I have ZERO intentions to buy this card!!! I have one card I want still it is the T206 Bill O'Hara St-Louis variation in a 2 a 3 or a 4.

To be honest not much a fan of Honus either....I enjoy his T206 card but that is it for me. I know he was a great player and all!!!

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Mine was one of them. Offered 5 bucks.

It was promptly declined.
Your'e lucky it was declined, I doubt it's worth that much.
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By the way, wasn't Pittsburgh spelled without the "H" back in the 1890s?
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It says at the bottom of the listing that it was "Posted with the eBay Android app".

You mean to tell me he typed all that with a PHONE and not a computer??? I hate writing more than a sentence from my phone!
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Your'e lucky it was declined, I doubt it's worth that much.
I knew he wasn't going to accept it. Thought he might give me a kurt remark or some absurd counter offer.

Unfortunately he did not.
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By far, the most difficult and rambling description I've ever read, er skimmed...
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I could not read the complete description., Oh Well!!!

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Why oh why.......when will it ever end......
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Mine was one of them. Offered 5 bucks.

It was promptly declined.
It must have been because he had already received a higher offer.
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If the card doesn't he can sell the description in book form.
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if the card doesn't he can sell the description in book form.

lol

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Tolstoy, he isnt.
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This is staggering. When the description is copied to Word it is 37 pages long and the word count is 11,373.
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This is staggering. When the description is copied to Word it is 37 pages long and the word count is 11,373.
See? He is only asking $21 a word.
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A very quick summary of the entire auction is: It's not Honus Wagner.

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I don't think I've ever met someone in real life who is capable of typing something like this cdv's description. What do such people look like? How do they behave if you see them sitting in a coffee shop?

I'm once again baffled by humanity.
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Yet another piece falsely claiming to be Honus Wagner.

The two most valuable types of Honus Wagner cards are:

1909 T206 Wagner (probably less than 75 thought to exist) and
1903 E107 Breisch-Williams (4 graded, less than 10 thought to exist)
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Scott,

If they are autistic and have an obsessive/compulsive disorder also, they wouldn't be sitting in a coffee shop. They would be home editing and adding to the descriptions of their eBay auctions......

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That is a mind-boggling description.

Here is just a random paragraph, from the middle of this random description I stumbled across.

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Note ::::: That (((( Perfect Fresh looking Haircut )))) he has on this c.1890 card...as a matter of fact,
Young Honus ,was trained as a Barber as a vocation , before his Baseball profession,
by his older brother ..Charles an established Barber ,in Mansfield,Pa.
So ,he would have,Absolutely,. wanted a [ *Perfect Haircut *] , for this his very 1st Baseball card image.

I don't have the patience to look any further, but I'm sure there's gold nuggets of rock solid provenance like this scattered throughout.

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I've never seen so much BS crammed into an eBay auction description in my life!!!

Ok, there have been 5 offers on this card. Its gone up by 2 since I last looked at it. Anyone here guilty?
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omg longest listing i ever seen, didnt make it through the the 1st few lines.
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Random excerpt.

••••••• Even in Pennsylvania today & over a 100 years later ,••••••••••
..............in many small towns,there are just as many Bars.
..............as there are Churches .
There are sometimes as many as ( 10 churches ) and there are at least (10 bars )
or more in many small towns still in Pennsylvania today.
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My dad said growing up in Minneapolis there was a church and a bar on every block.

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••••••• Even in Pennsylvania today & over a 100 years later ,••••••••••
..............in many small towns,there are just as many Bars.
..............as there are Churches .
There are sometimes as many as ( 10 churches ) and there are at least (10 bars )
or more in many small towns still in Pennsylvania today.
I feel cheated. I live in a Pennsylvania small town, and it doesn't have anything close to 10 bars... or 10 churches, for that matter.
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••••••• Even in Pennsylvania today & over a 100 years later ,••••••••••
..............in many small towns,there are just as many Bars.
..............as there are Churches .
There are sometimes as many as ( 10 churches ) and there are at least (10 bars )
or more in many small towns still in Pennsylvania today.
Well, there ya go! It's obviously genuine based on the church/bar per town ratio.
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I think I saw that item description written on a bathroom wall somewhere...
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If you ever want to hear an imbecile posing as a wise sage, send this guy an email. It will make you cringe.
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Free shipping!!!

But five minutes of my life I'll never get back after trying to skim
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This has to be a joke.

He raised the price to 1,000,000.

Dollars, not even Pesos.
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I submitted an offer for $20, expecting it to get autodelinced. However, it was not. He does offer free shipping, so I improvised a solution, just in case he accepts it.
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Default P.T. Barnum was right!!!

There are now 8 offers. There are even two offers from the same bidder. Hopefully they are all joke offers. I'd put in an offer of $6.50 but I don't want to lose my good standing with eBay for taunting a seller.
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I submitted an offer for $20, expecting it to get autodelinced. However, it was not. He does offer free shipping, so I improvised a solution, just in case he accepts it.
Is the offer currently in "pending" status yours?
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Is the offer currently in "pending" status yours?
It may have been, but it isn't anymore. It was just declined.

I received this response to my message:

Hey ,thanks,..ill fix that..im always glad to make corrections..or make things easier..
Not sure how to ship..?

what do you suggest..?
so how would you ship it if it was yours..?

I seriously thought..buyer would come in person to inspect..etc.and pick up,..?
You obviously are a card deler shipping Thousands of cards..where i am just a researcher,..
and..dont worry,..about..the shipping details much.
I did mention..its up to the buyer..more than me..how they handle it..ebay..doesnt have a link button for that..you have to pick just one.
Thanks doc,



Did I mention this guy was a moron?

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I fixed any Insurance confusion,..Buyers check or payment must..clear..in 5 days..then it will be sent..
Fully Insured...payed ...!
Anywhere....World..Wide..!
Thanks,for pointing that out.
God Bless, Doc.

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