Crazy uncles

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by MCyganik

Putting on my tin foil hat here:

What if the "elite collectors" who "own" Crazy Uncle that Aaron is just the "President" of were in fact Joe Orlando and other higher ups at PSA/Collectors Universe?

It's very possible...

Below is a list (off the top of my head- I'm sure there's more) of identical business practices which Crazy Uncle and PSA share...

* A complete lack of communication from management on key issues and concerns
* Disappearing when public issues need to be addressed
* Lack of any follow-up measures to help the customer
* Unthinkable incompetence/ineptitude at doing the one thing they are supposed to do
* Failure to honor their commitments (PSA with its supposed "Guarantee" / CU with enacting its reserves)
* Apparent disdain for it's customer base
* Complete failure to ship the customers' possessions back to them in a timely manner
* Inherent lies and false statements which hide actual facts
* Banning of dissatisfied, truth-telling customers

Crazy Uncle and PSA run their respective businesses the same exact way. Since PSA is thriving despite employing these "unusual" business tactics, perhaps they myopically believe it can work in other arenas, like online auctions.

I would not be at all surprised if Orlando and Sloan were revealed to be the owners. Collectors Universe (CU) and Crazy Uncle (CU)... Just a "crazy" coincidence?
I think not.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by perezfan

It's very possible...

Below is a list (off the top of my head- I'm sure there's more) of identical business practices which Crazy Uncle and PSA share...

* A complete lack of communication from management on key issues and concerns
* Disappearing when public issues need to be addressed
* Lack of any follow-up measures to help the customer
* Unthinkable incompetence/ineptitude at doing the one thing they are supposed to do
* Failure to honor their commitments (PSA with its supposed "Guarantee" / CU with enacting its reserves)
* Apparent disdain for it's customer base
* Complete failure to ship the customers' possessions back to them in a timely manner
* Inherent lies and false statements which hide actual facts
* Banning of dissatisfied, truth-telling customers

Crazy Uncle and PSA run their respective businesses the same exact way. Since PSA is thriving despite employing these "unusual" business tactics, perhaps they myopically believe it can work in other arenas, like online auctions.

I would not be at all surprised if Orlando and Sloan were revealed to be the owners. Collectors Universe (CU) and Crazy Uncle (CU)... Just a "crazy" coincidence?
I think not.

A close friend of mine works with women recovering from abusive relationships. He says overall the emotional abuse does way more long term damage than the physical. I can’t help but notice some of the overlaps in our hobby. Some of the abuse that collectors endure only to run back to the same companies because of “stuff” is unnerving sometimes....and the companies (abusers) never change their ways because the victims keep coming back, so why would they.

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by perezfan

It's very possible...

Below is a list (off the top of my head- I'm sure there's more) of identical business practices which Crazy Uncle and PSA share...

* A complete lack of communication from management on key issues and concerns
* Disappearing when public issues need to be addressed
* Lack of any follow-up measures to help the customer
* Unthinkable incompetence/ineptitude at doing the one thing they are supposed to do
* Failure to honor their commitments (PSA with its supposed "Guarantee" / CU with enacting its reserves)
* Apparent disdain for it's customer base
* Complete failure to ship the customers' possessions back to them in a timely manner
* Inherent lies and false statements which hide actual facts
* Banning of dissatisfied, truth-telling customers

Crazy Uncle and PSA run their respective businesses the same exact way. Since PSA is thriving despite employing these "unusual" business tactics, perhaps they myopically believe it can work in other arenas, like online auctions.

I would not be at all surprised if Orlando and Sloan were revealed to be the owners. Collectors Universe (CU) and Crazy Uncle (CU)... Just a "crazy" coincidence?
I think not.

Has anyone posted on CU about Crazy Uncle auctions and how bad they are? I think you would get a your answer quickly. If I were Dave, Id start the lawsuit in your jurisdiction and get a default judgement. Then go inforce it at their location. Might get some media coverage on it as well to see how far down the snake hole goes.

[CJDave]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

Has anyone posted on CU about Crazy Uncle auctions and how bad they are? I think you would get a your answer quickly. If I were Dave, Id start the lawsuit in your jurisdiction and get a default judgement. Then go inforce it at their location. Might get some media coverage on it as well to see how far down the snake hole goes.

I would absolutely do that. I won't let them get away with this screw job !!!

6 weeks now......NO COMMUNICATION. NO MONEY. MISSING ITEMS !!!

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by CJDave

I would absolutely do that. I won't let them get away with this screw job !!!

6 weeks now......NO COMMUNICATION. NO MONEY. MISSING ITEMS !!!

Have you attempted to contact Ryan Spence?

[CJDave]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Have you attempted to contact Ryan Spence?

I don't have his direct email address.

[CJDave]

Hey folks,

In connection with all of the ridiculous issues mentioned that I have had to endure with Crazy Uncle and Aaron and the fact that I have not heard a single word about my supposed $250K - $300K in sales in over 6 WEEKS !!! (even though the reserves should have been triple that) I wanted to ask this question to anyone reading this that is either an Auction House (AH) or to anyone that has consigned to an auction house.

I have mentioned in the past that other AHs have paid me within 30 days and have communicated all along the way (and all have been 6 figures).

For those who are AHs......what is average turn time to pay (and especially to your largest consigner)? And what is communication to your consigners like as far as the totals and when they can expect their money?

For those who have consigned to AHs......how long has it normally taken to get paid and how has the communication been with the AH on how much you should be getting paid and how long will be the time frame?

Obviously Crazy Uncle is not in the same class as the other AHs but aside from the screw job with my reserves (which my protection was all in writing), the fact that items were sold for 1/3 of the reserves with a loss of over a half million dollars, the hundreds of thousands of dollars of missing items never returned, and the sheer disgusting move of dumping hundreds of thousands of dollars of high end collectibles without warning in front of my home when no one was at home for them to not only be stolen, but on one day in 95 degree heat and on another day during a tropical storm...….but the fact that the supposed sales of $250K - $300K have not been paid and have not even been communicated with me as to the pay date (and FYI - I have in writing about a 14 day pay date !!!!!). I'm pretty sure 6 weeks+ is more than 14 days!!!!!!

I would love some feed back about other AH experiences from both sides......This is actually something that will help me in the end.

THANK YOU !!!!!!!

[toppcat]

Is there some reason you're not just suing the crap out of him at this point?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

We pay within 14 business days and I don't think you'll find an auction house smaller than us. Occasionally we have been late by a day or two, but more often we're early. If we haven't paid we normally give a status update around day 10.

Any of the guys who've consigned with me want to verify that? Pretty sure I've lived up to those standards.

Originally Posted by CJDave

Hey folks,

In connection with all of the ridiculous issues mentioned that I have had to endure with Crazy Uncle and Aaron and the fact that I have not heard a single word about my supposed $250K - $300K in sales in over 6 WEEKS !!! (even though the reserves should have been triple that) I wanted to ask this question to anyone reading this that is either an Auction House (AH) or to anyone that has consigned to an auction house.

I have mentioned in the past that other AHs have paid me within 30 days and have communicated all along the way (and all have been 6 figures).

For those who are AHs......what is average turn time to pay (and especially to your largest consigner)? And what is communication to your consigners like as far as the totals and when they can expect their money?

For those who have consigned to AHs......how long has it normally taken to get paid and how has the communication been with the AH on how much you should be getting paid and how long will be the time frame?

Obviously Crazy Uncle is not in the same class as the other AHs but aside from the screw job with my reserves (which my protection was all in writing), the fact that items were sold for 1/3 of the reserves with a loss of over a half million dollars, the hundreds of thousands of dollars of missing items never returned, and the sheer disgusting move of dumping hundreds of thousands of dollars of high end collectibles without warning in front of my home when no one was at home for them to not only be stolen, but on one day in 95 degree heat and on another day during a tropical storm...….but the fact that the supposed sales of $250K - $300K have not been paid and have not even been communicated with me as to the pay date (and FYI - I have in writing about a 14 day pay date !!!!!). I'm pretty sure 6 weeks+ is more than 14 days!!!!!!

I would love some feed back about other AH experiences from both sides......This is actually something that will help me in the end.

THANK YOU !!!!!!!

[BeanTown]

Originally Posted by BeanTown

Has anyone posted on CU about Crazy Uncle auctions and how bad they are? I think you would get a your answer quickly. If I were Dave, Id start the lawsuit in your jurisdiction and get a default judgement. Then go inforce it at their location. Might get some media coverage on it as well to see how far down the snake hole goes.

Dave, glad you read my post!

[brianp-beme]

Here is CJDave getting his 15 minutes of fame.

Brian

[glynparson]

FFS the internet where every moron can post their batshit crazy conspiracy and act like it has any merit. No chance they are owners.

Originally Posted by perezfan

It's very possible...

Below is a list (off the top of my head- I'm sure there's more) of identical business practices which Crazy Uncle and PSA share...

* A complete lack of communication from management on key issues and concerns
* Disappearing when public issues need to be addressed
* Lack of any follow-up measures to help the customer
* Unthinkable incompetence/ineptitude at doing the one thing they are supposed to do
* Failure to honor their commitments (PSA with its supposed "Guarantee" / CU with enacting its reserves)
* Apparent disdain for it's customer base
* Complete failure to ship the customers' possessions back to them in a timely manner
* Inherent lies and false statements which hide actual facts
* Banning of dissatisfied, truth-telling customers

Crazy Uncle and PSA run their respective businesses the same exact way. Since PSA is thriving despite employing these "unusual" business tactics, perhaps they myopically believe it can work in other arenas, like online auctions.

I would not be at all surprised if Orlando and Sloan were revealed to be the owners. Collectors Universe (CU) and Crazy Uncle (CU)... Just a "crazy" coincidence?
I think not.