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Old 06-08-2021, 04:19 PM
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Default Thoughts on Crossing '50 Robinson from BVG to SGC

Hi Fellow Collectors,

This is my first post on Net54 -- looking for some insights and hoping you'll be kind to this newbie!

I've just never been a fan of the BVG holder and would like to see this 1950 Bowman Robinson in a SGC holder to match up with other '50 and older cards I already have in SGC holders. Would appreciate any opinions on whether to submit in the BVG holder with a 5 minimum or if you think the better bet is to crack out and submit? If to crack and submit, any speculation of the final grade?

The centering is great, I don't see any creasing/wrinkles, and the card has good eye appeal. The top left corner is a bit of a question mark but otherwise looks every bit like the SGC 5's I already have.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

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Old 06-08-2021, 07:32 PM
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Can you post a picture of the back?
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Old 06-08-2021, 08:48 PM
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I've sent MANY cards to SGC. I would leave it in the BVG holder.

It will not crossover via SGC if you put 5 as a min.

My hunch is SGC would give this card a 4 or a 4.5.

Just my opinion.

Very cool card and it looks fine where it is. Centering is beautiful btw!

Thanks for sharing!

Mike

PS I enjoy offering advice on cards like this and I'll make you an offer. If you send it to SGC and it crosses to a SGC 5 or higher, I'll pay you the $30 crossover fee. If it does not get slabbed, you pay. You'll also have to pay the shipping either way. Just trying to back up my opinion. Thanks! Mike

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Old 06-08-2021, 09:06 PM
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If it's part of you PC and you like the black apron I would give it a try, I have several BVGs that I'm doing the same thing with. Great card, hard to find centered. Good luck!
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Old 06-09-2021, 06:28 AM
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I've sent MANY cards to SGC. I would leave it in the BVG holder.

It will not crossover via SGC if you put 5 as a min.

My hunch is SGC would give this card a 4 or a 4.5.

Just my opinion.

Very cool card and it looks fine where it is. Centering is beautiful btw!

Thanks for sharing!

Mike

PS I enjoy offering advice on cards like this and I'll make you an offer. If you send it to SGC and it crosses to a SGC 5 or higher, I'll pay you the $30 crossover fee. If it does not get slabbed, you pay. You'll also have to pay the shipping either way. Just trying to back up my opinion. Thanks! Mike
PSA and SGC have gotten harsh/impossible with their current grading. Based on my current experiences, I think you would be lucky to get a 4-4.5 out of them!
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Old 06-09-2021, 12:49 PM
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To me it would depend on what you want to do with the card. If you are looking to sell, SGC slabs go for more than BVG, but SGC is not going to give that card the same grade. As has been said, I would guess in the 4 range. If you are keeping it, I would probably just leave in the BVG slab. It's not going to get hurt that way and still presents nicely.
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Old 06-12-2021, 09:21 PM
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The back toning and touched corners keep it from grading higher. How it got that grade is astounding. You can try the X-over route and ask for a 5, but I doubt you'd get it. Whatever you do . . . do not crack it out and submit raw. SGC could really screw you over. If it was for my PC, I wouldn't mess with it. The moral is, if you want one in a PSA /SGC coffin, buy it that way.
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Old 06-13-2021, 04:43 PM
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Agree it wonít get an SGC 5 and if there are surface imperfections they could saddle you with a 2.5. Have you considered selling it and shopping for a new one? There are of course risks associated with all these options but maybe you could get a big price due to the centering. Although you would have gotten more 90 days ago it is still a very nice and valuable card and many collectors are ok with BVG.
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Old 06-17-2021, 08:57 PM
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Thanks for some great feedback. It certainly helped confirm a few thoughts -- mostly that trying to cross anything over is a gamble and the odds are against you; and secondly, great advice that if you want a card in a PSA, BVG, SGC or other holder, buy it that way. I think I'll just put this one away for a while and keep my eye open for either a 49 or 50 in an SGC holder -- somewhere around the 5 grade. Just my preference on the SGC for '50 and older but have '51 and newer in PSA. Again, thanks for all the sage counsel.
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Old 06-18-2021, 09:41 PM
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Lots of great advice in here but I I just wanted to add that I love the 1950B Jackie and this example shows really well. With a PSA pop comparable to the 1952T card thatís been on a rocket ship to get moon, Iím very surprised this beautifully designed card hasnít seen more movement. Even if you dislike the holder, this is a great card.


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