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Old 12-01-2023, 09:39 AM
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Default Willie Mays Autograph Help: Real or No Deal?

Hey there! This is my first ever post here, Reddit recommended you guys highly, so Iím here to check it out! I recently got this Willie mays 1972 card, and was wondering if thereís a chance the auto on it is real. Iíve attached the image as an attachment, since idk how to include an image in the thread itself yet. Let me know what you guys think! Thanks a million, and have a great day! -Polarboy
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Old 12-01-2023, 10:25 AM
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Default Sorry for the image being on it's side. Here's a fixed one!

This should fix the image!

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Old 12-01-2023, 01:38 PM
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I think itís good but 90% of the autographs posted on here get the thumbs down, so who knows?
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At the risk of sounding like I actually think I know what Iím talking about, I donít like this one. Maysí autograph usually looks like it was penned with quick sharp decisive strokes. This one lookís slowly drawn with multiple pauses. This is especially visible in the W. Since I really donít know what Iím talking about Rob is probably right.
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Old 12-01-2023, 08:49 PM
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At the risk of sounding like I actually think I know what Iím talking about, I donít like this one. Maysí autograph usually looks like it was penned with quick sharp decisive strokes. This one lookís slowly drawn with multiple pauses. This is especially visible in the W. Since I really donít know what Iím talking about Rob is probably right.
Neither one of us knows what weíre talking about!

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I'm an autograph guy and I say no bueno.
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Old 12-02-2023, 07:59 PM
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Here's one that Beckett graded. His signature looks like it says, "Tim Mop"

I am not an auto guy. You can send for grading if you want to sell.
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Old 12-02-2023, 08:14 PM
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Fat sharpies hide a lot of issues in autographs, and are usually used by fakers to create that confusion.
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Old 12-02-2023, 08:19 PM
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Here's why I'm not an "auto guy."

My aunt and uncle went to a spring training game and went up to Dwight Gooden and handed him a ball and he signed it. My uncle gave it to my dad to give to me. Although that's provenance to me, it's a cock and bull story to anyone I tried to sell it to.

What's left is comparing a signature from a ball your uncle got in person, to other signatures that pop-up. There's a lot of cloak and dagger and mystery surrounding auto's.
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Here's one that Beckett graded. His signature looks like it says, "Tim Mop"

I am not an auto guy. You can send for grading if you want to sell.
In the event of it being real (if that is the case) Iím just gonna keep it for the pc. I make it a point not to sell or trade any of the hall of famer stuff, unless I either have duplicates, or am getting a really good deal towards more hall of famers!
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Old 12-02-2023, 08:43 PM
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Fat sharpies hide a lot of issues in autographs, and are usually used by fakers to create that confusion.
That's a valid point. Although why they would chose to emulate this style of his auto vs the most common variation he used in the 2000's is beyond me. Maybe it came from of those beckett ad mail in auto scams they had back in the day idk. I hope it's real, but I'm biased of course.
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Old 12-02-2023, 08:49 PM
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Just wanted to say I appreciate all the feedback given by ya'll, whether it's for it being fake or not. I was referred here from r/autographassitance, and i'm glad I was, you guys have a lot to bring to the table regarding the subject.
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Old 12-02-2023, 09:22 PM
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Fat sharpies hide a lot of issues in autographs, and are usually used by fakers to create that confusion.
Thatís probably true but itís also true that someone could give the card and Sharpie to Willie in, say, the Giants parking lot in Scottsdale. Willie signed for me there, as he was walking. Who knows? Not even the ďexperts.Ē
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Itís good
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