Goldin Issues?

[Schlesinj]

Anyone else having trouble getting in?

[ullmandds]

can't be?

[Shoeless Moe]

Yep, I can't get in either.

[mrreality68]

Intermittent issues and for a few minutes I could not load up page

[Schlesinj]

Auction extended to tomorrow.

[vorthian]

We've been alerted that certain browsers are unable to access the site, and are extending the vintage card and memorabilia auction until tomorrow, Sunday, October 9th at 10pm EST.

Please e-mail me with any questions: stevelucas@goldinauctions.com

[BobbyStrawberry]

It's the auction that just keeps on going!

[babraham]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

It's the auction that just keeps on going!

Ha! Yes it sure is!
Might as well extend it another week at this point, give those cosignors their moneys worth.

[mrreality68]

So if I understand correctly last week they extended a week and today another day.
Wow the auction that keeps on giving

[Mjpadilla84]

The website was only down for about ten minutes and they extend another day?? They already extended it a week, ridiculous. Never ending auction

[babraham]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

So if I understand correctly last week they extended a week and today another day.
Wow the auction that keeps on giving

I was bidding on auctions and preparing for the extended bidding.
I go to eat dinner with the family and come back to it saying over one day left in auction. Oh well.

[trambo]

This shouldn't surprise anyone. Seems every auction end from them is extended. It shouldn't surprise anyone if it gets extended again, too.

[Johnny630]

Sports Card Industry….No Rules Just Right…the Beat Goes On

[Schlesinj]

I think it is Safari that is not working.

[Goldin Auctions]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

I think it is Safari that is not working.

That is correct
Issues with safari so while you may be able to bid and act as normal, safari users have had problems reaching the site, and have had issues seeing their ‘bidding’ losing’ items.
We believe this is now 100% fixed. This is the first tech problem we have encountered since moving to our own platform, and to be blunt as possible, we have learned from prior experience that when users have issues reaching or using the site, we need to err on the side of caution and protect Consignors to ensure that everyone who wishes to bid is able to do so.
Thank you for your participation and we close Sunday at 10pm

[chriskim]

Originally Posted by Mjpadilla84

The website was only down for about ten minutes and they extend another day?? They already extended it a week, ridiculous. Never ending auction

Looks like the longer the auction, the more bids Wagner receives....

[CardPadre]

Goldin has had Safari issues for a couple months at least. This is from today, just now, and happens all the time on my computer. They don’t have a handle on what it is, regardless of what they now say. I’ve just been using another browser.




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[Johnny630]

Could anyone else besides me able to control themselves and just stop bidding?

I have had enough. At this point its ridiculous.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Could anyone else besides me able to control themselves and just stop bidding?

I have had enough. At this point its ridiculous.

Maybe we need to switch to a new auction closing format. The auction stays open until there are no bids on any item in the entire auction for a whole month. That way we can make sure that everyone who wants to bid has a chance to bid!

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by raulus

Maybe we need to switch to a new auction closing format. The auction stays open until there are no bids on any item in the entire auction for a whole month. That way we can make sure that everyone who wants to bid has a chance to bid!

At this point they might as well change the ending timer to read:

"Auction ends: WHENEVER WE DAMN WELL PLEASE"

[Johnny630]

How about Making this better for the people who participated in the auction before the auction was extended? Anyone who placed a bid in this auction gets zero seller commissions for the next three months. That seems like a nice gesture to take care of your bidders. Nobody wants to hear about free vault fees give them a zero sellers fee if they’re not already getting one.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

How about Making this better for the people who participated in the auction before the auction was extended? Anyone who placed a bid in this auction gets zero seller commissions for the next three months. That seems like a nice gesture to take care of your bidders. Nobody wants to hear about free vault fees give them a zero sellers fee if they’re not already getting one.

As they say in Italy:

In culo alla balena!

[oldjudge]

Why does it matter? If there is an item you want then bid to your limit and STOP. Then it doesn’t matter if the auction closes today, tomorrow, or a week from whenever. If you feel obligated to bid as long as the auction remains open then you are just the kind of sucker that auction houses love. Remember, there is no card that you can’t live without.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Why does it matter? If there is an item you want then bid to your limit and STOP. Then it doesn’t matter if the auction closes today, tomorrow, or a week from whenever. If you feel obligated to bid as long as the auction remains open then you are just the kind of sucker that auction houses love. Remember, there is no card that you can’t live without.

Jay, the reason it matters to me is that last night was the second consecutive Saturday I set time aside for OT. Will it end tonight? At this point I'm not confident in that.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Why does it matter? If there is an item you want then bid to your limit and STOP. Then it doesn’t matter if the auction closes today, tomorrow, or a week from whenever. If you feel obligated to bid as long as the auction remains open then you are just the kind of sucker that auction houses love. Remember, there is no card that you can’t live without.

Disclosure: I’m not bidding in this auction, so it doesn’t really matter that much to me, at least this time. We can also all agree that auction extensions are not unique to Goldin, as many others have extended their auctions in the past for any variety of reasons.

But, having said that…a few observations about why extensions tend to not be my fave:

It smacks a bit of bait and switch. And as buyers, none of us likes a good bait and switch.

It’s emotionally draining. If there’s a nice item that you’re bidding on, especially if you’ve been jonesing for it for a long time, then continuing to ride the roller coaster of the never-ending auction is no fun.

You worry that it will allow new bidders to discover the auction. We all hope that everyone else will miss the auction, at least for items that we really want. It’s why outing auctions is such a sensitive topic around here. The longer an auction stays open, the greater the chances that new bidders will enter the fray and bid up the price on everything that we want.

You worry that it will allow existing bidders to increase their bids. We’ve all been there before. We set a limit on how much we’re willing to pay. And then when someone outbids us, we take a little while, think about it some more, and decide that we’re willing to go a little higher. If this goes on for long enough, pretty soon the price has doubled or tripled. Since we all want to get the best possible price on our items, extending the auction very much increases the odds that the price we pay will go up, and not just a little.

There are very real financial ramifications. For those of us whose last name is not Zuckerberg, spending thousands, tens of thousands, or if you’re bidding on the Wagner, even millions on an item is a pretty big deal. And it would be nice for the auction to end so that we can finally know whether we won and need to scrape together the cash, or whether we can move onto the next. By perpetually staying open, the auction denies us the ability to move on with this aspect of our lives.

So for me, I’m not a big fan of auction extensions, even though this one isn’t a big deal for me, simply because I’m not bidding on anything.

[JimmyC]

Goldin auctions is all about making money as opposed to investing in technology…..they have always had issues with their auctions and accessibility….it’s 2022 - not 1996…..sorry, I will no longer consign or bid in their auctions - been burned too many times with their technology….or lack thereof….

[Mjpadilla84]

Originally Posted by CardPadre

Goldin has had Safari issues for a couple months at least. This is from today, just now, and happens all the time on my computer. They don’t have a handle on what it is, regardless of what they now say. I’ve just been using another browser.




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Ohh great I wouldn’t be surprised for another week extension!

[JimmyC]

When they changed their platform in the last year or so they wanted my financial statements or bank account balances to bid on something over something like $10,000 - in 2017 I spent like $10,000 in one auction and regularly spent several thousands in their auctions since then….I am a premier bidder in Grey Flannel….I was not going to divulge my financial info to them…they would not approve me to bid….I copied Ken Goldin on my emails with their folks internally about this and didn’t hear a thing……I don’t work that way - I’ve spent tens of thousands in their auctions over the years and get no respect / have no interest in bidding or consigning to auction houses who show no respect back…

It’s all about the Benjamin’s to Goldin - they don’t care about their customers…..plain and simple..will never consign or bid in one of their auctions again…..

[oldjudge]

I understand what you guys are saying but just throw in an up to bid to your limit and forget about it. That way you don’t have to allocate time to the auction; the process is done. The only reason not to do this is if you don’t trust the auction house which is an entirely different story.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

I understand what you guys are saying but just throw in an up to bid to your limit and forget about it. That way you don’t have to allocate time to the auction; the process is done. The only reason not to do this is if you don’t trust the auction house which is an entirely different story.

That works fine as long as you’re at the “I don’t care at all” or “I only care a little” point on the scale. As you work your way up the scale, getting closer to “pretty much all of my emotional energy and financial future is tied up in this auction”, then it becomes a lot less viable as a strategy.

[Yoda]

Ken is currently getting roasted on several UTube podcasts.

[JimmyC]

Originally Posted by Yoda

Ken is currently getting roasted on several UTube podcasts.

It’s all about the Benjamin’s…..never been about the hobby to him….

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

I understand what you guys are saying but just throw in an up to bid to your limit and forget about it. That way you don’t have to allocate time to the auction; the process is done.

That analogy works fine for an auction which ends on the day that its supposed to.

Not the case here. This auction has had 3 different end dates thus far.

Could we possibly have 4? Time will tell.

[bcbgcbrcb]

When I consigned with them, site was down for a couple of days, no extension, the auction was just shortened. No wonder my results were terrible. Just my luck like with everything else.

[oldjudge]

Tony—It works no matter when it ends. Just put in an up to for your max and forget it. Why does it matter when it ends? If you’ve bid your max then you are done. The problem may be that people don’t really know their max and just bid till the pain gets too much. If that is the case then perhaps those people need to rethink their bidding strategy.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Tony—It works no matter when it ends. Just put in an up to for your max and forget it. Why does it matter when it ends? If you’ve bid your max then you are done. The problem may be that people don’t really know their max and just bid till the pain gets too much. If that is the case then perhaps those people need to rethink their bidding strategy.

Many people fear if they leave a max bid they will be run up. I guess that means they don't trust the AH. Not specific to Goldin, general observation.

[3-2-count]

Jay, you just said the key word in your last comment - (strategy)

By the sounds of it the rule of thumb that you follow for auctions is to just plug your max bid in and go to bed. That strategy seems to work for you and I think thats great!

Many here including myself though just don’t follow that same bidding strategy/pattern for a number of reasons, especially when factoring in that we can be talking about the many different lots that bidders could be following simultaneously in any given auction.

When you have 3 unexpected closing nights arise in the same auction spanning across 2 weeks it does in fact change the strategy and the auction results.

[ullmandds]

I also prefer to stay up and in the heat of the battle pay more than i ever thought i would and then freak out when i see the bill and i didnt even factor in all the added fees.

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Jay, you just said the key word in your last comment - (strategy)

By the sounds of it the rule of thumb that you follow for auctions is to just plug your max bid in and go to bed. That strategy seems to work for you and I think thats great!

Many here including myself though just don’t follow that same bidding strategy/pattern for a number of reasons, especially when factoring in that we can be talking about the many different lots that bidders could be following simultaneously in any given auction.

When you have 3 unexpected closing nights arise in the same auction spanning across 2 weeks it does in fact change the strategy and the auction results.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

Jay, you just said the key word in your last comment - (strategy)

By the sounds of it the rule of thumb that you follow for auctions is to just plug your max bid in and go to bed. That strategy seems to work for you and I think thats great!

Many here including myself though just don’t follow that same bidding strategy/pattern for a number of reasons, especially when factoring in that we can be talking about the many different lots that bidders could be following simultaneously in any given auction.

When you have 3 unexpected closing nights arise in the same auction spanning across 2 weeks it does in fact change the strategy and the auction results.

+1 there's so much more that goes into a bidding strategy, especially for rare/expensive cards, than set it and forget it.

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I also prefer to stay up and in the heat of the battle pay more than i ever thought i would and then freak out when i see the bill and i didnt even factor in all the added fees.

Oh, and that too

[babraham]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I also prefer to stay up and in the heat of the battle pay more than i ever thought i would and then freak out when i see the bill and i didnt even factor in all the added fees.

Haha, yep.

[phillyfan24]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Many people fear if they leave a max bid they will be run up. I guess that means they don't trust the AH. Not specific to Goldin, general observation.

I've had one experience at an auction house (years ago and it was Goldin). They had a Mike Schmidt collection and I just had to have an item. I knew this would be an item to fetch thousands. So I put a max bid in that I was comfortable with and worth it. I was winning throughout with an amount decently lower than my max bid. Needless to say I happily won the item.

But I was pretty shocked/surprised that it went all the way to my max bid. Thought it was too much of a coincidence, and have never bid on anything from any auction house since. I just don't trust them.

J@mie Turs.ini

[raulus]

Good news! Auction is finally, mercifully over.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by phillyfan24

I've had one experience at an auction house (years ago and it was Goldin). They had a Mike Schmidt collection and I just had to have an item. I knew this would be an item to fetch thousands. So I put a max bid in that I was comfortable with and worth it. I was winning throughout with an amount decently lower than my max bid. Needless to say I happily won the item.

But I was pretty shocked/surprised that it went all the way to my max bid. Thought it was too much of a coincidence, and have never bid on anything from any auction house since. I just don't trust them.

It's hard to know what to think when that happens and of course it's happened to us all.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by raulus

Good news! Auction is finally, mercifully over.

3.72 mil on the Wagner.

[babraham]

I was watching & bidding on a few cards but ended up only winning 2...and they're an odd pair:

T206 Walter Johnson Hands at Chest
1980 Topps Rickey Henderson RC

[Oscar_Stanage]

I don't know if the early end was a result of the glitch or if this is Goldin's general format.... but at 1030 last night my items were over. this seems like the right format for an auction as opposed to bidding going on until 1am.

at 10pm we entered extended bidding and if no other bids came by 1030 it was over, regardless of what happens with the rest of the auction.

[NYYFan63]

Originally Posted by Oscar_Stanage

I don't know if the early end was a result of the glitch or if this is Goldin's general format.... but at 1030 last night my items were over. this seems like the right format for an auction as opposed to bidding going on until 1am.

at 10pm we entered extended bidding and if no other bids came by 1030 it was over, regardless of what happens with the rest of the auction.

I noticed the same and agree, if no other bids come in, the auction should end for that item.


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[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's hard to know what to think when that happens and of course it's happened to us all.

Has happened to me. And also I’ve put in max bids that happily
Weren’t reached. Seen both.

[ullmandds]

I don’t believe Honus increased in all of the extensions, did it??