Honus Wagner t206 in Goldin tomorrow (6/21/25) - what will it sell for?

[uniship]

My guess is a cool $6m.

And whoever buys it is a genius.

What are your guesses?

[Timeless Cardboard]

3 million 600 thousand is my guess. Yes it’s a Wagner but it’s in tough shape.

[uniship]

I believe it’s already at $4.1 with the buyers premium.

https://goldin.co/item/1909-11-t206-...JkSW5kZXgiOjB9

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[Leon]

I'm not sure it matters what it looks like. It will be interesting to see where it lands. Maybe somewhere around 5M? Could be more, could be less...

[Jstottlemire1]

Really great registration on this example.

[JimC]

It's so cool despite the flaws. I'm saying 5.2M to 6.2M. Best of luck to all involved.

[raulus]

Where is the big borders crowd on this one? Those borders look awfully thin to me!

[mrreality68]

For all it’s flaws it’s a beauty to me
And I think the go fund me page for Leon never happened
Sorry Leon you have to buy it on your own

Would give everything up for 1 but would still fall way way to short

6.6 million is my guess.

[brunswickreeves]

My guess is $5.5MM, based on last PSA 1 sale and forecasted CAGR since then.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

For all it’s flaws it’s a beauty to me
And I think the go fund me page for Leon never happened
Sorry Leon you have to buy it on your own

Would give everything up for 1 but would still fall way way to short

6.6 million is my guess.

Would you really give up everything in your collection for one card?

What does everyone think the reserve is? If it’s posted somewhere, I missed it.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Would you really give up everything in your collection for one card?

What does everyone think the reserve is? If it’s posted somewhere, I missed it.

Hi

I love my collection and I have been consolidating down for a few years to have fewer cards and higher quality/rarity.
But for the Holy Grail I would gladly trade/sell them all for 1.
But reality is will not happen because my cards may/may not have some value but no where close to what I would need
So I will just enjoy what I got and continue on my addiction (I mean mission) and enjoy my collection

As for the reserve I do not know how it works on Goldin. I like HA Where it tells you the reserve 3 days before.

[Snapolit1]

People act like this sale is somehow indicative of a healthy market for vintage. I don’t see it. Card is probably being bought by some well heeled investors group that doesn’t care much about the “asset” they are buying. Just confident they can turn a profit when they sell it in a few years. Goldin has clearly corners the market on well heeled investors.

[jsfriedm]

No sale. Top bid of $4.15 million. What does Ken Goldin blame it on? Fanatics Fest? Bombing of Iran?

[cardsagain74]

I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't get why this was ever expected to be a $ 5-6 MM card.

That situation at the top border could've easily tipped it from barely a PSA 1 to an A. And then 4.15 million would've seemed like a healthy enough bid.

So this doesn't seem like anything wrong with the marketplace. More like a typical buy the card, not the grade.

[Lorewalker]

4 million plus seems like a solid price to pay for a 1...this coming from someone who is not in the market for one. Most bidders do not love the concept of a reserve, hidden or otherwise. And while I get that the consignor preferred one be used, they might have cost themselves a sale unless of course they told Ken, I need X mil or I am not a seller.

One has to wonder if the top bids were even from the public or internal bids trying to get action on the card and to drive it to where the reserve was met.

Sale or no sale it was good PR for the house.

[oldjudge]

Ryan’s card, Ryan’s choice. If it goes up from here it was a good decision, if not it wasn’t.

[mrreality68]

I agree each consignor has a right to do reserve if they choose or “let it ride”.

Especially the higher the value of the card the higher risk/reward.

Amazing what the bidding was without a winner.

And I am sure when and if he decides to sell at auction or in private he will get what he is asking price wait until he gets it

All the other Wagners were strong prices

[oldjudge]

Does anyone know how Goldin treats reserves? I know some auction houses bid against reserves and some just take the bid to one increment below the reserve so that the next bid exceeds it. I assume that also some auction houses do nothing and just see if the final bid exceeds the reserve.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Does anyone know how Goldin treats reserves? I know some auction houses bid against reserves and some just take the bid to one increment below the reserve so that the next bid exceeds it. I assume that also some auction houses do nothing and just see if the final bid exceeds the reserve.

In their terms and conditions they state that they may bid an item up to just under the reserve.

"vii. Goldin may place bids below the reserve on behalf of the Seller, either consecutively or in response to other bids."

[oldjudge]

Then do we know if the bid at $4.15 million was a house bid or a third party bidder?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Ryan’s card, Ryan’s choice. If it goes up from here it was a good decision, if not it wasn’t.

Not since I have been in the hobby has a Wagner gone down but not sure what up from here means. This is a DNS so not sure up or down from here is relevant.

Since GA can bid up to the reserve how many bids did they place and odds are that the high bid was theirs.

[dariushou]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

In their terms and conditions they state that they may bid an item up to just under the reserve.

"vii. Goldin may place bids below the reserve on behalf of the Seller, either consecutively or in response to other bids."

Did Goldin state while bidding that the auction had a reserve or was it a silent reserve? If it was a silent reserve and they can bid against it then that is some fishy ass shit. In my opinion at least.

[benjulmag]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Then do we know if the bid at $4.15 million was a house bid or a third party bidder?

We don't.

[bcbgcbrcb]

It doesn’t make a difference if it was the AH placing the highest bid or another bidder, all that matters is that if the AH was involved at all, who knows if a second real bidder ever even entered the picture so either way the high bid wouldn’t even exist because the sole real bidder wouldn’t be bidding against themself. Even if the AH was not involved at all and never placed a bid, all it takes is a “hobby friend” to get involved and the end result is the same. The best way to avoid this whole scenario is for the AH to not allow reserves and every card simply goes to the highest bidder. The idea that a consignor has the safety net of a reserve or hidden reserve so they don’t have to sell their card if they are not happy with the price defeats the whole purpose of an auction. Then sell your card with a Buy It Now price. Why be given the best of both worlds, make sure you don’t leave any money on the table using a fixed price sale while not having the risk or receiving a disappointing price at auction, whichever works out better for you. Because, to get a high-end card like this, AH’s will fall all over themselves and do ANYTHING to get the consignment. A lot of competition out there you know.

[Snapolit1]

So the bottom like is that with all the oooohing and aaahing the past few weeks about amazing sky high bids …… none of us have any clue how many of them were placed on behalf of the consignor. Lovely. But please keep expressing your amazement at the bids.