T206 Blacksox

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Posted By: Henry

Which players in the t206 set are blacksox besides Chick Gandil. At first I thought all of them were but am having second thoughts.


Thanks, Henry

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Posted By: Greg Ecklund

Cicotte

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Posted By: zach

Yupp those are it. You won't be finding a Joe Jackson or his five other friends anytime soon in the T206 set.

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Posted By: Elliot

Don't forget that Bill Burns who was involved is in the t206 set.

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Posted By: joe

Hi, how was Burns involved. He's not one of the eight players is he?

Joe

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Posted By: William Heitman

He delivered some of the money.

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Posted By: Jason Kaster

And while he wasn't one of the eight "Black Sox", Hal Chase was involved with the fix.

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

That's all she wrote.

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Posted By: William Heitman

Hal Chase was actually indicted along with the players. He was in California when he was served, but service was quashed by a California court. He wasn't pursued.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Let's add the boxing Champ, Abe Attell, to the mix.

While he, obviously, isn't a T206 guy he can be found in
the T219 set and also in the 1948 Leaf Boxing set (and I
am sure in a few more sets).

His fighting career (Won 107 & lost 10) had ended a few years
before the "scandal" and was the betting guy involved with
the White Sox players.

Adam W. could provide us with more elaboration on Abe.

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Posted By: JudgeDred (Fred)

Lets go full circle... there's Eddie Collins - he was a good guy!

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Posted By: Alan

Great points Ted !!!

Adam - Do provide us with more info on Attell. Thanks !!!


Alan

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Posted By: Chad

May have possibly been involved and he's in the t206 set. His involvement is real iffy, tho.

--Chad

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Posted By: BlackSoxFan

Chase was fringe in the scandal and i don't think the Maharg/Graham idea really holds any water. It is disputed, but that's just my two cents.

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Posted By: joe

Not a player, but find it interesting that Detroit Sportswriter Joe Jackson was mistaken for the player Joe Jackson in a speakeasy and asked about the fix. The original Financial Ledger from the Detroit team that I have has expenses paid for Sportswriter Joe Jackson to ride the train and other expenses on the road.

Joe

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Posted By: William Heitman

The Maharg/Graham idea was debunked back when the scandal broke, Billy Maharg did play in one game in the major leagues--the Tiger's strike game when Ty Cobb was suspended. Graham's and Maharg's lives have been separately traced.

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

but who ever heard of the name Maharg..it's SO weird--unless it's Graham spelled backwards.

Anyone have a photo of ArnoLd Rothstein?

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Posted By: Ray

Cover of a book:

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Posted By: Scott Gross

Attell's boxing cards:

Ogden's (UK), Pugilists & Wrestlers, 1908-9, #41 (of 50)

T3/T9, Turkey Red, 1911, #52
T218, Mecca & Hassan, 1910
T219, Miners Extra, Honest Long Cut, & Red Cross, 1910
T225, Khedivial & Surburg
T226, Red Sun, 1908
T227, Miners Extra & Honest Long Cut, 1912
T229, Kopec & The Pet, 1910

C52 (Canada), Imperial, 1910, #48 (of 50)

E75, Am. Caramel, 1910
E77, Am. Caramel, 1910
E78, Anonymous, 1911
E79, Phila. Caramel, 27 Scrappers, 1910
E80, Phila. Caramel, 44 Scrappers, 1910 (second card with brother Monte)

W580, 1920's strip

R401, Leaf, 1948, #25
R411, Topps ringside, 1951, #60 (of 96)

Compiled from Evan Jones' book Seconds Out - Round One. I'm sure Adam will expand upon this list...

Abe also made the cover of Richard Fox's 1910 Police Gazette Sporting Annual.