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Piedmont Overback?
Posted By: Red
Very common. In fact that's where a lot of Drum backs are hiding. |
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Posted By: Matt
Any of the T206 hobby veterans care to weigh in? Ever see one of these before? |
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Posted By: JimB
If it is a HOF, I imagine somebody was trying to increase the value by putting an Old Mill back on it. It is more common to see that done with even tougher backs like Drum and Uzit. It is a shame because it is easy to detect and the scammers destroy perfectly good Drum and Uzit backs in the process. In the case of the card mentioned, it is an alteration gone bad and decreased the value of the card. |
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Posted By: Mike
Hey Matt, |
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Posted By: Matt
Jim - I agree that it wouldn't make sense for a collector to do this, which gives more credence to the probability it was done by the factory to allow distribution with Piedmont cigarettes. I assume you haven't seen one before, which is why your initial inclination was that it was done later, but the monster gives away a new discovery every now and then. |
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Posted By: NYHighlanderFan
I AGREE WITH RED... |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
I don't accept the factory reback idea you guys are kicking around. |
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Posted By: Matt
Frank - thanks for weighing in. I agree that overbacking would not be as easy as just printing the cards with the correct back in the first place, but by that logic, we wouldn't have overprints, either. Although, to be fair, adding an additional back is even more intensive then overprinting a factory. Furthermore, Piedmont were the most common backs - it would be odd that they had Old Mills lying around and needed to turn one into a Piedmont. |
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Posted By: Matt
"rebacking could occur where a card is peeled away from a scrapbook and another card pasted in its place. Just imagine some kid peeling a spare Cobb card out of his scrapbook, leaving a bit of the back, then pasting in the 'new' series Crawford card that he'd traded for..." |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
Frank's scenario sounds like a very plausible explanation for this overbacked card. |
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Posted By: Matt
Ted & Frank - thanks for weighing in. I suppose I will give him a bath. |
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Posted By: T206Collector
...totally fraudulent in my opinion. The top right corner of the Piedmont back is worn like any other VG corner would be -- and yet it is not on the corner of the card. This means it was added quite some time after factory. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
The overprint is an interesting situation... |
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Posted By: Matt
Frank - this is an important question for discussion: |
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Posted By: NYHighlanderFan
I would love to know why only certain factories inserted cards...for instance Piedmont. Why would they advertise at least one baseball picture in each pack but then not insert them in every pack due to factory designation? |
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Posted By: Dave Hornish
I believe all tobacco packaging or inserts had to identify the factory where the tobacco was produced due to prevailing law. |
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Posted By: Matt
Thanks Dave! Where all T206s printed in the same place, or as Frank suggested, where they printed in different factories? |
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Posted By: Aaron Conyers
Here is my overprint. Not sure what to think of the dotted lines? |
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Posted By: Matt
Aaron - looks like it was glued into some notebook paper and when it was removed, some of the card stayed on the paper and some of the paper stayed on the card. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Matt... |
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Posted By: Matt
Frank - thanks for the clarification! Sounds like a question for Ted... |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
FRANK W.....already answered you correctly.....the AMERICAN LITHOGRAPHIC CO. printed all the T206 cards..... |
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Posted By: Matt
Frank asked a new question, which is what I was referring to in my post above. re-read his most recent post and you'll see he was wondering about overprints and which back series corresponded to which overprints and how that may have occurred. |
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Piedmont Overback?
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
The scroll overprints (Sweet Cap 150/649 and Sweet Cap 460/42) and the Factory changes were all printed |
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Posted By: Matt
thanks - that is understood. |
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