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<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dcat=213&_fsrp=1&_sop=1&_nkw=(E90-1%2CE90-2%2CE90-3%2CE91%2CE92%2CE93%2CE94%2CE95%2CE96%2CE97%2CE98%2CE99%2CE100%2CE101%2CE102%2CE103%2CE104%2CE105%2CE106%2CE107)&_sacat=213&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_TitleDesc=0&Era=Pre%252DWWII%2520%2528Pre%252D1942%2529%7C!&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=allecards&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Baseball E90-E107 on eBay</a><br>

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<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/261328/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Goudey++&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_sop=1&Card%2520Manufacturer=Goudey&_dcat=213&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=Goudey&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Goudey Cards on eBay</a><br>
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<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Play+Ball+-reprint+-topps+-upper&_sacat=213&LH_TitleDesc=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_fsrp=1&Original%252FReprint=Original%7C%21&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=playball&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Play Ball Cards on eBay</a><br>


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<a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/212/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Mickey+Mantle+-reprint+-book+-new+-1997&LH_TitleDesc=0&_fsrp=1&Era=%21&_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=MickeyMantle&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay</a><br>


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<a href="https://www.ebay.com/b/Football-Sports-Trading-Cards-Accessories/212/bn_2313620?_sop=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5338821054&customid=footballcards&toolid=10001&mkevt=1" target=_blank>Football Cards on eBay</a><br>


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Not only do they have no expertise and no duty to me to advise me accurately, they also have a huge disincentive to tell me the truth: money.  What are they going to say, "yeah, you owe taxes even if you have the cards sent here, just eBay won\'t collect them, but if you ever get audited you will get nailed"?  If they said that no one would use their dumbass service.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I know, that\'s why I was saying it didn\'t make any sense.  And I was thinking like you, just didn\'t say it out loud.  LOL<br />\r\n<br />\r\nFor the heck of it, I did do a little quick research to see if I could find anything related to owning/using an asset outside of CA before bringing into the state that would specifically exempt it from being subject to CA sales and use tax. I didn\'t find anything specific in regards to cards or any other personal property, and didn\'t really expect to.  But did get lucky on CA\'s own site and found that if you purchase and use a motor vehicle outside of CA for at least 12 months and then bring it into CA, you owe no sales or use tax on the vehicle.  Even if you originally bought it in Oregon where you paid no sales tax at all.  Gives me some faith that if you purchased and kept something like baseball cards in a vault outside of CA for at least a year or two before you then tried to bring them into CA, they may no longer be subject to CA sales or use tax either.  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And I was thinking like you, just didn\'t say it out loud.  LOL<br />\n<br />\nFor the heck of it, I did do a little quick research to see if I could find anything related to owning/using an asset outside of CA before bringing into the state that would specifically exempt it from being subject to CA sales and use tax. I didn\'t find anything specific in regards to cards or any other personal property, and didn\'t really expect to.  But did get lucky on CA\'s own site and found that if you purchase and use a motor vehicle outside of CA for at least 12 months and then bring it into CA, you owe no sales or use tax on the vehicle.  Even if you originally bought it in Oregon where you paid no sales tax at all.  Gives me some faith that if you purchased and kept something like baseball cards in a vault outside of CA for at least a year or two before you then tried to bring them into CA, they may no longer be subject to CA sales or use tax either.  I\'ll have to do some more digging.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>What does it mean to USE the vehicle elsewhere, maybe that\'s the key to why you don\'t owe use tax because you already used it.  You said purchase AND use.  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You said purchase AND use.  Are you using a card sitting in a vault?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I know that may sound dumb, but that is what it says.  Think of it this way, you live in CA, and have a second/vacation home somewhere in Oregon.  And when you stay there with family you end up buying an extra car from an Oregon dealer and just leave it there at the Oregon house should someone staying there need to use it.  And then one day you just decide to sell the Oregon house and simply bring the Oregon vehicle back to CA with you.  If you had owned that Oregon car for at least 12 months before bringing it back to CA, you would owe no use tax on the car to CA.  But lets say you only owned it for 9 months before bringing it back, you would owe CA the full use tax on whatever you originally paid for the vehicle, because you had bought it in Oregon and paid no sales tax on it it to start with.  Had you bought and used the vehicle in a state other than Oregon, where you did pay a sales tax on it when you bought it, you would still owe CA use tax on it if you brought it back to CA before owning it at least 12 months.  And the CA use tax would still be based on the original purchase price of the vehicle, except now you would reduce the use tax you owe CA dollar for dollar by the amount of sales tax you originally paid to the state you bought the car in.<br />\n<br />\nAs for "using" a card you keep in the vault, you could say it is being held and used as potential inventory for an upcoming sale or something like that.  The definition can likely be somewhat loose.  Like maybe you just parked the car when you first got it, and then never drove it again till you got it back to CA.  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Do you folks have some magical trading card evaluation logic? Or do you use previous sales history? If the latter, you are absolutely exposed to all these bidding schemes.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>It is very simple for me. I set the highest price that I am comfortable in paying and submit it. If it goes above that price. I move on to the next auction of a like item. No science or woo involved in the decision making on my end. 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I set the highest price that I am comfortable in paying and submit it. If it goes above that price. I move on to the next auction of a like item. No science or woo involved in the decision making on my end. Just the bottom (or top) line for me.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>The question is how you arrive at that highest bid value. If you use prices previously paid on the same or similar cards in order to decide how much you are comfortable paying, then you are exposed to the shilling problem. 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If you use prices previously paid on the same or similar cards in order to decide how much you are comfortable paying, then you are exposed to the shilling problem. If you use no historical sales data in deciding your highest price, but others bidding against you are using that historical pricing to make their bids, and you lose the item as a result, then you are still exposed to the problem.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>It is not that complicated, I set a price based simply on what I want to pay for the item. I am not exposed to anything. I set my price and if the bidding goes up to my price and I get the card at the high end, so be it and I get the card. I am not exposed to anything but the amount I am willing to pay. 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I am not exposed to anything. I set my price and if the bidding goes up to my price and I get the card at the high end, so be it and I get the card. I am not exposed to anything but the amount I am willing to pay. Nothing more, nothing less.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>That’s called being an “enabler”. 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Shillers prey on people like you because you are happy paying your highest price when, without shilling, you would get many items for much less.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I am enabler....that is rich. <br />\n<br />\nScenario for you. Once card sells for x amount and has a buy it now price on it.<br />\n<br />\nAnother card starts out at y price then ends up at x price. (Both the same price).<br />\n<br />\nWhat do you call that? 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Once card sells for x amount and has a buy it now price on it.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnother card starts out at y price then ends up at x price. (Both the same price).<br />\r\n<br />\r\nWhat do you call that? No one enabled anyone with either sale of the card.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnd in this scenario we are talking about the same card type just different methods of how it is sold. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nButch Turner</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Yep, the one example that makes no difference and supports your case.  How about this.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nYour highest price is $1,000. Someone is willing to pay $500 so you should win it at $510. But shiller boosts it to $999. You win for $1,000. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nNow repeat 10 times per year with the $500 being some other number either higher or lower, doesn’t matter. My preference is to win all 10 auctions at a total cost well below $10,000.  I might even be able to buy more than 10 items that year. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nYou are being an enabler and are being preyed upon. 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It’s usually accompanied by an inane statement such as, “I bid the maximum I’m going to bid and that’s it. Whatever happens, happens.”</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Amazes me how many people have that attitude. As long as they put in their max bid, they are unaffected by the fraud. Lets hope that all these enablers and PWCC supporters wind up with a collection full of Moser cards. 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At least not with respect to income tax. However, if you purchased items on ebay and had them shipped directly to your PWCC vault, which allowed you to avoid paying sales tax on those transactions since they are located in Oregon, then you will have to pay any applicable sales taxes that you previously avoided when they ship those cards back to you unless you have a resale certificate on file with PWCC.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Correct.  I have been told that you may not owe sales/use tax in some jurisdictions if you wait long enough, but not sure of that.  General concept is right.  Of course how many are going to pay it.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today\'s hobby:<br />\r\nNo consequences.<br />\r\nStuff trumps all.<br />\r\nThe flip is the commoodity.<br />\r\nAnimal Farm grading.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2136316" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2136316 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2136316_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2136316 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2136316 -' + '->';
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At least not with respect to income tax. However, if you purchased items on ebay and had them shipped directly to your PWCC vault, which allowed you to avoid paying sales tax on those transactions since they are located in Oregon, then you will have to pay any applicable sales taxes that you previously avoided when they ship those cards back to you unless you have a resale certificate on file with PWCC.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>What if someone in CA wants to save 7.25-10.25% on sales tax. Can they drive up to Oregon, request their items from the Vault in person and commit tax evasion? There has to be something in place to prevent that from happening?<br />\n<br />\nAlso, I thought this was genius and timely marketing from the folks at Love of the Game! "When it\'s time to consign your valuable vintage cards and memorabilia, integrity should be at the top of your list of requirements."<br />\nIt goes on to say "Your cards are important enough that they shouldn\'t be locked in a vault for future resale" Wow that\'s a burn for both PWCC and Goldin if I ever heard one.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- attachments -' + '->\r\n			<div style="padding:6px">\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n				<fieldset class="fieldset">\r\n					<legend>Attached Images</legend>\r\n					<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3" border="0">\r\n					<tr>\r\n	<td><img class="inlineimg" src="images/attach/jpg.gif" alt="File Type: jpg" width="16" height="16" border="0" style="vertical-align:baseline" /></td>\r\n	<td><a href="attachment.php?attachmentid=474762&amp;d=1629486770">Love of the Game.jpg</a> (14.4 KB, 565 views)</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n					</table>\r\n					</fieldset>\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / attachments -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by 1954 topps; 08-20-2021 at <span class="time">02:26 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2136327" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2136327 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2136327_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">1954 topps</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=624099">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=624099" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to 1954 topps</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=624099" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by 1954 topps</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2136327 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2136327 -' + '->';
pd[2136348] = '<!-' + '- post #2136348 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2136348" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2136348" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2136348&amp;postcount=22" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2136348" name="22"><strong>22</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2136348"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				08-20-2021, 03:01 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2136348">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=751859">Snowman</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Snowman is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2136348", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nTravis\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Tra,vis Tr,ail - Banned\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Jul 2021</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 2,446\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2136348">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2136348">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>1954 topps</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2136327#post2136327" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">What if someone in CA wants to save 7.25-10.25% on sales tax. Can they drive up to Oregon, request their items from the Vault in person and commit tax evasion? There has to be something in place to prevent that from happening?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>No, I believe you have to show proof of residence. Although, who knows with PWCC. If the rumors are all true, one might be inclined to assume they have an on-site service set up for you to "move to Oregon" while picking up your cards? 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pd[2136374] = '<!-' + '- post #2136374 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2136374" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2136374" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2136374&amp;postcount=23" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2136374" name="23"><strong>23</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2136374"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				08-20-2021, 04:24 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2136374">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=154">BobC</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="BobC is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2136374", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Bob C.\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Apr 2009</div>\r\n					<div>Location: Ohio</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 3,279\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2136374">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2136374">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Snowman</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2136302#post2136302" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">No, it\'s not a taxable event unless you sell it. At least not with respect to income tax. However, if you purchased items on ebay and had them shipped directly to your PWCC vault, which allowed you to avoid paying sales tax on those transactions since they are located in Oregon, then you will have to pay any applicable sales taxes that you previously avoided when they ship those cards back to you unless you have a resale certificate on file with PWCC.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>The idea of their vault is that they want you to leave everthing there in Oregon.  That way they figure when you do go to sell, they\'ve got the consignment already.  And by leaving all the items in the vault, there is no sales tax issue.<br />\n<br />\nAnd regarding the resale sales tax exemption certificate, giving one to PWCC doesn\'t do anything in regards to sales taxes you might otherwise end up owing to the state you live in.  You give those exemption certificates to the party you are actually buying from so they don\'t charge you sales tax.  PWCC is merely holding your items for you and has nothing to do with sales tax.  Plus, if you used the PWCC address in Oregon to have purchased items shipped directly to your vault, the seller would already know you\'re in a sales tax free state and not charge sales tax to begin with.  You actually wouldn\'t need to give a sales tax exemption certificate to anyone in that case.<br />\n<br />\nJust saw your post in regards to CA. That must be some special deal they had to cut in order for CA to not come after them for potentially helping people cheat them on sales tax.  I know CA taxes are absurd, but this is over the top for even them.  So if what PWCC says is true for items shipped to Oregon, what about someone who has a house in Oregon, which they sell and then move to CA with all their furnishings and belongings that they originally bought while in Oregon, and paid no sales tax on.  I don\'t believe CA can come in and then try to charge you CA sales tax on items you originally bought to use in a different state.  I\'m going to research this some in case PWCC did make some deals with other states besides just CA.  That is definitely not how it should working in most every state, and also why i said to check further into each specific state\'s sales and use tax laws for possible quirks like this.  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How about this.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nYour highest price is $1,000. Someone is willing to pay $500 so you should win it at $510. But shiller boosts it to $999. You win for $1,000. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nNow repeat 10 times per year with the $500 being some other number either higher or lower, doesn’t matter. My preference is to win all 10 auctions at a total cost well below $10,000.  I might even be able to buy more than 10 items that year. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nYou are being an enabler and are being preyed upon. The rest of us put in max bids hoping and expecting they will go for less.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Pretty much blew you own argument out of the water with your very last sentence. <br />\r\n<br />\r\n"The rest of us put in max bids hoping and expecting they will go for less." <br />\r\n<br />\r\nMe too!! ain\'t that funny. I set it and don\'t care, you set it and care. 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But the other complaint by many people not directly involved in such a shilled transaction is that it then possibly sets a higher false price for the card that was shilled so that when they later go to acquire that same card, they may end up having to pay more for it than they may have wanted.  But if someone did put up say a $100 max bid on a card that would normally only sell for $30-$40, and it got shilled up to say $80, is that really a false and inflated market price?  <br />\n<br />\nIf the person who ended up winning it at $80 was actually willing to go $100 for it, then isn\'t $100 the true market price and they actually got the card they wanted at less?  I always thought the definition of market value/price was what someone was willing to pay for something in an open, arms length transaction.  But in reality, isn\'t what normally ends up getting recorded as the highest price someone is willing to pay actually based on the second highest amount someone is willing to pay, and not necessarily the true highest amount?<br />\n<br />\nI understand the concept of market manipulation through shill bidding, but for that to be what is actually occuring, don\'t the people behind the market manipulation scheme actually have to end up winning (and paying for) the overly priced cards they are trying to manipulate?  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If one person is willing to pay $100 and the next highest is willing to pay $50, the market price is one bid past $50, not $100.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>As you said, your definition is market price at "auction".  I always heard the FMV of something was what a willing buyer would agree to pay an unrelated willing seller for something in an open, arms length transaction.  So if the party looking to buy a particular card is willing to pay $100 for it, but because they are seeking to buy it through an auction and end up getting it for less than their max bid, it doesn\'t mean they couldn\'t have run across that same card with a dealer at some show and gladly paid the $100 he was asking for it, right? So if that is the case then what is the correct market value of that card, at least at that point in time?  It sure isn\'t just one increment over $50.<br />\n<br />\nPlus, when dealing with an auction you are limited by who decides to participate.  There is no guarantee that all potentially interested parties are participating or even aware of a particular auction, or a specific card in it.  Of course the same goes for card shows and individual dealers selling a card outright, they don\'t have all potential buyers necessarilly aware of and looking to buy a card they have for sale either.  And the thing about an auction is that you normally don\'t know the maximum amount someone who ends up winning an item for is actually willing to pay for it, which to me would be it\'s true market value.  We really only know what the second highest bidder attending/participating in that particular auction was willing to pay. <br />\n<br />\nYou may be biased in that you operate an auction house and possibly tell potential consignors that an auction is the best way for them to get the highest possible market value for their items they look to sell, but is it always?  I\'ve heard of people saying items they put up for auction didn\'t go for what they thought they would and were sometimes disappointed in what an item ended up selling for, and I would suspect that has happened in your auctions as well.  At best, auction and Ebay results are good indicators of where the "market" is approximately on cards, but to truly know what someone is really willing to pay for an item you need to know the max amount they would have gone for that item.  That would be a more true "market"value.  But still, think about how many times here just on Net54 you\'ve seen someone post how after the fact they heard about something they didn\'t know was being auctioned, or how they were in an auction, but because there were so many items they were going after they couldn\'t afford to go more on some items they wished they could have.  Those kind of things affect final hammer prices negatively, but is that hammer price on such items truly an indicator of accurate "market" prices then?<br />\n<br />\nI\'ve always felt that most people acquiring items through auctions are doing so because they expect to get things for less than what they perceive market value to be.  Why else would you always hear of so many people talking about being run up in their max bids?  They are ticked because they fully expected to pay less, and they have every right to be if somehow their max bid amount became known and was used solely to run up what they paid.  Granted, there are marquee and uber rare items, like the recent PSA3 Wagner sale, where no one has any idea where the market truly is.  So they consign it to auction to hopefully get the top price, and it sells for a record $6.6M.  But what if instead of an auction the consignor instead put it up for  sale at say $7.5M, and the same person who won it for $6.6M happily pays the $7.5M for it because he/she thinks it is really worth $10M.  So in that case your "auction" value is way below what a more true FMV should be. <br />\n<br />\nAnd maybe a more measurable indicator that auctions aren\'t always perceived as the best way to get maximum market value for a card is Ebay itself.  When Ebay started out it was primarily an auction platform, but if you looked at pre-war vintage card sales over most recent years, the number of actual auctions is usually around 1,000-2,000 at any point in time.  Meanwhile the total number of pre-war vintage cards being listed was more like 40,000-50,000.  At least it used to be before Ebay changed the search filters and you could look up pre-war baseball as a specific category.  Point is, the vast majority of sellers did not feel auctions would get them the max market value.  And yes I know there are certain dealers well known for their pages and pages of supposedly overpriced BIN listings, but that doesn\'t change the fact that if they felt they would get a comparable/higher max price by putting their items up for true auctions instead that that is what they would be doing.<br />\n  <br />\nThere is no perfect indicator of a card\'s FMV, and it most definitely fluctuates over time, especially during this current pandemic period we\'re going through.  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But the other complaint by many people not directly involved in such a shilled transaction is that it then possibly sets a higher false price for the card that was shilled so that when they later go to acquire that same card, they may end up having to pay more for it than they may have wanted.  But if someone did put up say a $100 max bid on a card that would normally only sell for $30-$40, and it got shilled up to say $80, is that really a false and inflated market price?  <br />\n<br />\nIf the person who ended up winning it at $80 was actually willing to go $100 for it, then isn\'t $100 the true market price and they actually got the card they wanted at less?  I always thought the definition of market value/price was what someone was willing to pay for something in an open, arms length transaction.  But in reality, isn\'t what normally ends up getting recorded as the highest price someone is willing to pay actually based on the second highest amount someone is willing to pay, and not necessarily the true highest amount?<br />\n<br />\nI understand the concept of market manipulation through shill bidding, but for that to be what is actually occuring, don\'t the people behind the market manipulation scheme actually have to end up winning (and paying for) the overly priced cards they are trying to manipulate?  If they ended up just increasing what a legitimate buyer was actually willing to pay for the card, haven\'t they really just succeeded in exposing a more true, top market value for the card?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>If I understand your point, I think the answer is no.  People pay based on what other people are bidding and what a card has sold for.  Take a single auction.  I own ten other examples of the card being offered, which has sold before for 100 max.  I hope to push up the price so as to unload some of mine, so I bid 125, hoping a "legitimate" buyer thinks it\'s a real bid and that the card is going up, and tops me at 130.  Odds are I will hook at least one such buyer.  I do this gradually over time with 5 more examples and eventually the price of the card gets to 200.  I would call that a manipulated price, not a new true one.  And I haven\'t won any.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today\'s hobby:<br />\r\nNo consequences.<br />\r\nStuff trumps all.<br />\r\nThe flip is the commoodity.<br />\r\nAnimal Farm grading.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 08-19-2021 at <span class="time">05:13 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2135886" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2135886 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2135886_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2135886 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2135886 -' + '->';
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Odds are I will hook at least one such buyer.  I do this gradually over time with 5 more examples and eventually the price of the card gets to 200.  I would call that a manipulated price, not a new true one.  And I haven\'t won any.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>An asset is "worth" what someone will pay.  If a store owner, or a guy at a show, or a buy it now on ebay is asking $130 and someone is willing to pay it, there\'s your comp.  If you bid on a card so as to push it into range where someone will have to pay $130, and someone does, then that is a comp.  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If a store owner, or a guy at a show, or a buy it now on ebay is asking $130 and someone is willing to pay it, there\'s your comp.  If you bid on a card so as to push it into range where someone will have to pay $130, and someone does, then that is a comp.  The thoughts going through the minds of the store owner, the table holder at the show, the ebay seller, or the 2nd highest bidder don\'t matter.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>So you don\'t recognize market manipulation?  OK, we can disagree.  Shill bidding shouldn\'t bother you then, as long as someone really paid at the end of the day.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today\'s hobby:<br />\r\nNo consequences.<br />\r\nStuff trumps all.<br />\r\nThe flip is the commoodity.<br />\r\nAnimal Farm grading.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 08-19-2021 at <span class="time">06:57 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2135932" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2135932 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2135932_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2135932 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2135932 -' + '->';
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People pay based on what other people are bidding and what a card has sold for.  Take a single auction.  I own ten other examples of the card being offered, which has sold before for 100 max.  I hope to push up the price so as to unload some of mine, so I bid 125, hoping a "legitimate" buyer thinks it\'s a real bid and that the card is going up, and tops me at 130.  Odds are I will hook at least one such buyer.  I do this gradually over time with 5 more examples and eventually the price of the card gets to 200.  I would call that a manipulated price, not a new true one.  And I haven\'t won any.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Peter, don\'t disagree with you at all, but at the end of the day, if all those people went ahead and ended up bidding more for those cards than you, then isn\'t that in fact what they ended up being willing to pay for them, which to me is the definition of true FMV?  No one twisted their arms to pay that much, did they?  The fact that you put in higher bids yourself, tell me, had you ended up winning one of those auctions wouldn\'t you have paid for the card?  I\'m sure you would, and probably stopped there and quit bidding any more on that card, right?  Now, while you had helped to raise what people would pay for that card, you did nothing wrong or illegal either.  Plus, there\'s no guarantee that you\'ll profit all that much when you go to sell because all those buyers now had the card they had wanted so chances are they wouldn\'t be out there bidding on more of them, and you wouldn\'t still be bidding your own cards up in price.  The demand may have dried up some, but at least you actions showed what others are willing to pay for that card, which is a truer indicator of that card\'s FMV, at least at that point in time. <br />\n<br />\nAnd isn\'t manipulating consumers to feel that the perceived value of an item is more than it really is a major, accepted part of business and marketing?  Just look at how much more brand name items usually sell for over generic/house brands, yet in many cases they may all be produced by the same manufacturer.  Or from the sports side, are the basketball shoes endorsed by a particular superstar really that much better than, and therefore worth so much more than, another pair of BB shoes that doesn\'t have to pay a superstar to advertise them?<br />\n<br />\nNot saying it may not seem morally deficient to some to try and manipulate prices like you suggested, but it happens everyday in the marketplace.  So I hate to say it, but it is up to consumers to educate themselves and determine their own value for things and what they are willing to pay for them.  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I am not exposed to anything. I set my price and if the bidding goes up to my price and I get the card at the high end, so be it and I get the card. I am not exposed to anything but the amount I am willing to pay. Nothing more, nothing less.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>You like paying the absolute highest price you\'re comfortable with every time?  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nIf you\'re willing to pay $100 for a card and someone lists it for $80, do you throw in an extra $20?\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				R0b G0ul3t<br />\r\n<br />\r\nVisit <a href="http://www.feltfootball.com" target="_blank">www.feltfootball.com</a> the largest pennant gallery in the known Universe\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2135818" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2135818 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2135818_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Fballguy</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=604638">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=604638" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Fballguy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="http://WWW.FELTFOOTBALL.COM">Visit Fballguy\'s homepage!</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=604638" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Fballguy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2135818 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2135818 -' + '->';
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Of course not. I would hope there was a make offer price and see what happened. But if the $80 price is what I am willing to pay what does it matter to anyone else? If it is a card I need or want. Sold American. <br />\n<br />\nSeriously, this is not that hard to understand.<br />\n<br />\nButch Turner\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by butchie_t; 08-19-2021 at <span class="time">04:34 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2135864" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2135864 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2135864_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">butchie_t</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=725663">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=725663" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to butchie_t</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=725663" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by butchie_t</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2135864 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2135864 -' + '->';

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pn[2135074] = "2135078,2135040";
pn[2135040] = "2135074,2135086";
pn[2135086] = "2135040,2135089";
pn[2135089] = "2135086,2135039";
pn[2135039] = "2135089,2135060";
pn[2135060] = "2135039,2135065";
pn[2135065] = "2135060,2135070";
pn[2135070] = "2135065,2135075";
pn[2135075] = "2135070,2135079";
pn[2135079] = "2135075,2135082";
pn[2135082] = "2135079,2135108";
pn[2135108] = "2135082,2135083";
pn[2135083] = "2135108,2135084";
pn[2135084] = "2135083,2135085";
pn[2135085] = "2135084,2135088";
pn[2135088] = "2135085,2135097";
pn[2135097] = "2135088,2135090";
pn[2135090] = "2135097,2135148";
pn[2135148] = "2135090,2135226";
pn[2135226] = "2135148,2135227";
pn[2135227] = "2135226,2135234";
pn[2135234] = "2135227,2135238";
pn[2135238] = "2135234,2135244";
pn[2135244] = "2135238,2134920";

// cached usernames
pu[0] = guestphrase;
pu[43] = "Peter_Spaeth";
pu[694132] = "vdad1981";
pu[583632] = "ZiggerZagger";
pu[1] = "Leon";
pu[30169] = "ejharrington";
pu[637] = "scooter729";
pu[8386] = "theuclakid";
pu[616091] = "nickers";
pu[619058] = "marzoumanian";
pu[622078] = "mrreality68";
pu[628614] = "Jcosta19";
pu[69] = "ullmandds";
pu[2814] = "bobbyw8469";
pu[620235] = "Aaron Seefeldt";
pu[617283] = "Johnny630";
pu[822] = "Fuddjcal";
pu[171482] = "darwinbulldog";
pu[560595] = "ajjohnsonsoxfan";
pu[629180] = "RL";
pu[622890] = "chlankf";
pu[130281] = "chadeast";
pu[626471] = "IndyDave";
pu[835] = "iwantitiwinit";
pu[688499] = "Casey2296";
pu[762807] = "Carter08";
pu[270] = "Brian Van Horn";
pu[262] = "D. Bergin";
pu[183004] = "maniac_73";
pu[386] = "packs";
pu[716011] = "nwfsteve";
pu[635] = "Jewish-collector";
pu[617549] = "Jersey City Giants";
pu[203647] = "Eric72";
pu[617137] = "Rookiemonster";
pu[148] = "Exhibitman";
pu[459997] = "The Nasty Nati";
pu[644497] = "hatchetman325";
pu[640497] = "MINES_MINT";
pu[14723] = "Zan";
pu[232] = "toppcat";
pu[10106] = "glchen";
pu[60] = "rdwyer";
pu[4340] = "hcv123";
pu[629812] = "notfast";
pu[16005] = "sportscardpete";
pu[785] = "Boccabella";
pu[617066] = "Snapolit1";
pu[657806] = "Redleg25";
pu[619282] = "Aquarian Sports Cards";
pu[450] = "insidethewrapper";
pu[154] = "BobC";
pu[630024] = "cardsagain74";
pu[112542] = "mckinneyj";
pu[3280] = "Flintboy";
pu[7710] = "griffon512";
pu[629436] = "JimC";
pu[193962] = "esquiresports";
pu[645433] = "Wanaselja";
pu[105524] = "JollyElm";
pu[679224] = "hockeyhockey";
pu[13680] = "Tabe";
pu[307554] = "bnorth";
pu[616184] = "Stampsfan";
pu[592605] = "tessiepants";
pu[138823] = "savedfrommyspokes";
pu[2996] = "NATCARD";
pu[454] = "buymycards";
pu[718] = "Buythatcard";
pu[621940] = "taul166";
pu[80895] = "carlsonjok";
pu[763] = "Republicaninmass";
pu[760193] = "53toppscollector";
pu[464] = "tbob";
pu[619386] = "55koufax";
pu[620715] = "carolenny";
pu[229] = "A2000";
pu[239] = "perezfan";
pu[185] = "Steve D";
pu[22820] = "Bigdaddy";
pu[617788] = "irv";
pu[359] = "Golf History";
pu[751859] = "Snowman";
pu[626835] = "cannonballsun";
pu[176] = "felada";
pu[103611] = "topcat61";
pu[620053] = "Nunzio11";
pu[607424] = "trdcrdkid";
pu[236789] = "guy3050";
pu[101355] = "rjackson44";
pu[769879] = "Mitochondria";
pu[160725] = "conor912";
pu[691039] = "jingram058";
pu[1062] = "MikeGarcia";
pu[604304] = "jchcollins";
pu[178] = "JeremyW";
pu[624099] = "1954 topps";
pu[621584] = "samosa4u";
pu[125565] = "vthobby";
pu[628617] = "Seven";
pu[1341] = "BCauley";
pu[189578] = "dealme";
pu[385484] = "japhi";
pu[616859] = "Yoda";
pu[211912] = "Michael B";
pu[321541] = "drcy";
pu[119] = "DanP";
pu[604638] = "Fballguy";
pu[48248] = "BengoughingForAwhile";
pu[725663] = "butchie_t";
pu[593] = "egbeachley";
pu[7971] = "BeanTown";
pu[16736] = "slipk1068";
pu[141] = "sb1";
pu[104352] = "Mark17";
pu[621693] = "imdaman1964";
pu[619483] = "Arazi4442";
pu[124] = "FrankWakefield";
pu[461310] = "kailes2872";
pu[617289] = "Bobbycee";
pu[719053] = "Frankish";
pu[724991] = "5-Tool Player";
pu[215578] = "MattyC";
pu[215430] = "Bored5000";
pu[685556] = "Oscar_Stanage";
pu[577439] = "rats60";
pu[465527] = "jad22";
pu[145110] = "HobokenJon";
pu[192] = "Wite3";
pu[9375] = "68Hawk";
pu[792] = "warrior1978";
pu[618523] = "ballparks";
pu[4257] = "steve B";
pu[624922] = "parkplace33";
pu[15244] = "LACardsGuy";
pu[289] = "prestigecollectibles";
pu[185738] = "ZenPop";
pu[290] = "benjulmag";
pu[617468] = "Andrew1975";
pu[627883] = "Aj-hman";
pu[30587] = "Bram99";
pu[581124] = "1952boyntoncollector";

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writeLink(2134920, 0, 0, 43, "", "ebay finds that PWCC engaged...", "08-17-2021", "12:24 PM", 0);
  writeLink(2134922, 0, 0, 694132, "T", "<i>I received it as well … not...</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:25 PM", 0);
    writeLink(2134923, 0, 0, 583632, "I,L", "<i>Got it too.  Wow….</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:26 PM", 0);
      writeLink(2134930, 0, 0, 8386, "I,1,L", "ebay email regarding pwcc", "08-17-2021", "12:29 PM", 0);
  writeLink(2134925, 0, 0, 1, "T", "Pwcc", "08-17-2021", "12:26 PM", 0);
    writeLink(2134926, 0, 0, 30169, "I,T", "<i>Yup, just saw this.</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:27 PM", 0);
    writeLink(2134927, 0, 0, 43, "I,L", "<i>That has to be a fraction of...</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:28 PM", 0);
      writeLink(2134929, 0, 0, 637, "I,1,T", "<i>There are at least 18,000...</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:29 PM", 0);
        writeLink(2134932, 0, 0, 1, "I,1,I,L", "<i>Yes there are. I guess my...</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:31 PM", 0);
          writeLink(2134933, 0, 0, 619058, "I,1,I,1,T", "Wow!", "08-17-2021", "12:35 PM", 0);
          writeLink(2134934, 0, 0, 622078, "I,1,I,1,T", "<i>Have not gotten it but Wow \n...</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:36 PM", 0);
          writeLink(2134935, 0, 0, 637, "I,1,I,1,L", "<i>They don't list &quot;PWCC&quot; in the...</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:37 PM", 0);
      writeLink(2134931, 0, 0, 616091, "I,1,L", "<i>I got it as well and am...</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:31 PM", 0);
  writeLink(2134936, 0, 0, 628614, "T", "<i>I was as excited as everyone...</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:37 PM", 0);
    writeLink(2134938, 0, 0, 69, "I,L", "<i>run...run...empty the...</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:39 PM", 0);
      writeLink(2134943, 0, 0, 2814, "I,1,L", "<i>Now, do they mean PWCC...</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:45 PM", 0);
        writeLink(2134946, 0, 0, 620235, "I,2,T", "I too got the email", "08-17-2021", "12:51 PM", 0);
        writeLink(2134948, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,L", "<i>Individuals associated with...</i>", "08-17-2021", "12:55 PM", 0);
          writeLink(2134957, 0, 0, 0, "I,3,T", "", "more", "", 0);
          writeLink(2134960, 0, 0, 0, "I,3,T", "", "more", "", 0);
          writeLink(2134963, 0, 0, 0, "I,3,L", "", "more", "", 0);
  writeLink(2134968, 0, 0, 628614, "T", "<i>I've read unconfirmed reports...</i>", "08-17-2021", "01:18 PM", 0);
    writeLink(2134976, 0, 0, 626471, "I,T", "<i>I received the e-mail as...</i>", "08-17-2021", "01:23 PM", 0);
    writeLink(2134984, 0, 0, 583632, "I,L", "<i>I agree with Peter it looks...</i>", "08-17-2021", "01:27 PM", 0);
      writeLink(2134989, 0, 0, 1, "I,1,T", "<i>Maybe, hopefully, the FBI...</i>", "08-17-2021", "01:33 PM", 0);
      writeLink(2134990, 0, 0, 762807, "I,1,L", "<i>I agree that eBay probably...</i>", "08-17-2021", "01:34 PM", 0);
        writeLink(2134991, 0, 0, 171482, "I,2,T", "<i>:eek:</i>", "08-17-2021", "01:39 PM", 0);
        writeLink(2134992, 0, 0, 560595, "I,2,T", "<i>I know there were a couple of...</i>", "08-17-2021", "01:40 PM", 0);
          writeLink(2134993, 0, 0, 270, "I,2,I,L", "<i>https://ludkinsmedia.com/pwcc-...</i>", "08-17-2021", "01:43 PM", 0);
        writeLink(2134994, 0, 0, 262, "I,2,T", "<i>If Ebay just curbed bid...</i>", "08-17-2021", "01:46 PM", 0);
          writeLink(2134995, 0, 0, 0, "I,2,I,T", "", "more", "", 0);
          writeLink(2134996, 0, 0, 262, "I,2,I,L", "<i>BTW, Ebay is still providing...</i>", "08-17-2021", "01:51 PM", 0);
        writeLink(2135016, 0, 0, 822, "I,2,T", "<i>a normal customer and they...</i>", "08-17-2021", "02:25 PM", 0);
          writeLink(2135024, 0, 0, 640497, "I,2,I,L", "<i>I just got off the phone with...</i>", "08-17-2021", "02:35 PM", 0);
            writeLink(2135025, 0, 0, 69, "I,2,I,1,T", "<i>the plot thickens!  could it...</i>", "08-17-2021", "02:37 PM", 0);
              writeLink(2135030, 0, 0, 617549, "I,2,I,1,I,L", "<i>I just got off with eBay and...</i>", "08-17-2021", "02:40 PM", 0);
            writeLink(2135031, 0, 0, 688499, "I,2,I,1,T", "<i>I'm sure the Ebay...</i>", "08-17-2021", "02:40 PM", 0);
              writeLink(2135035, 0, 0, 270, "I,2,I,1,I,L", "<i>No e-mail notification so...</i>", "08-17-2021", "02:47 PM", 0);
                writeLink(2135041, 0, 0, 232, "I,2,I,1,I,1,L", "<i>There's this now: \n...</i>", "08-17-2021", "02:55 PM", 0);
                  writeLink(2135051, 0, 0, 10106, "I,2,I,1,I,2,T", "<i>Did Rich receive separate...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:07 PM", 0);
                    writeLink(2135054, 0, 0, 459997, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,T", "<i>Anyone else felt it was...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:10 PM", 0);
                    writeLink(2135071, 0, 0, 785, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,T", "<i>The email was sent by eBay. \n...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:29 PM", 0);
                      writeLink(2135076, 0, 0, 386, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,T", "<i>&lt;iframe width=&quot;560&quot;...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:32 PM", 0);
                      writeLink(2135081, 0, 0, 10106, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,T", "<i>Wow, I stand corrected. ...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:37 PM", 0);
                      writeLink(2135091, 0, 0, 630024, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,L", "<i>That is not true about the...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:47 PM", 0);
                        writeLink(2135094, 0, 0, 69, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,1,T", "<i>i also received no email and...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:49 PM", 0);
                        writeLink(2135096, 0, 0, 130281, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,1,T", "<i>It is true. See how many...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:49 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(2135104, 0, 0, 630024, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,1,I,T", "<i>Yeah I see that too, but the...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:55 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(2135187, 0, 0, 622078, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,1,I,L", "<i>My question is what about the...</i>", "08-17-2021", "05:49 PM", 0);
                            writeLink(2135194, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,L", "<i>Could it be that Ebay didn't...</i>", "08-17-2021", "06:09 PM", 0);
                        writeLink(2135099, 0, 0, 629812, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,1,L", "<i>The BIN lists via the vault...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:51 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(2135100, 0, 0, 69, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,T", "<i>sure seems curious that some...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:53 PM", 0);
                            writeLink(2135103, 0, 0, 762807, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,T", "<i>Jim Nonkes: I definitely...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:55 PM", 0);
                            writeLink(2135107, 0, 0, 617549, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,T", "<i>meant to replay to someone,...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:57 PM", 0);
                            writeLink(2135109, 0, 0, 617549, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,T", "<i>Nope I am not lying that they...</i>", "08-17-2021", "03:59 PM", 0);
                              writeLink(2135113, 0, 0, 2814, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,L", "<i>This.....it makes no sense. ...</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:01 PM", 0);
                                writeLink(2135124, 0, 0, 105524, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,T", "<i>Two things: \n \n1. I can't...</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:12 PM", 0);
                                  writeLink(2135129, 0, 1, 307554, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,T", "<i>1. and openly admit...</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:20 PM", 0);
                                    writeLink(2135139, 0, 0, 630024, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,I,T", "<i>Some of us can only aspire to...</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:35 PM", 0);
                                      writeLink(2135144, 0, 0, 307554, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,I,I,L", "<i>It's only in cards, life is...</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:41 PM", 0);
                                    writeLink(2135141, 0, 0, 138823, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,I,L", "<i>Guess ebay has built up...</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:35 PM", 0);
                                      writeLink(2135151, 0, 1, 454, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,I,1,L", "eBay", "08-17-2021", "04:48 PM", 0);
                                  writeLink(2135130, 0, 0, 2814, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,L", "<i>Now PWCC seems to be...</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:20 PM", 0);
                                    writeLink(2135135, 0, 0, 592605, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,T", "<i>I called eBay earlier today...</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:27 PM", 0);
                                      writeLink(2135142, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,L", "<i>Interesting timing, just got...</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:37 PM", 0);
                                        writeLink(2135143, 0, 0, 622078, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,1,L", "<i>Got it also  \n \nInteresting...</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:39 PM", 0);
                                          writeLink(2135145, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,2,L", "<i>Ya think?  LOL</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:41 PM", 0);
                                            writeLink(2135146, 0, 0, 2996, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,T", "pwcc email response", "08-17-2021", "04:43 PM", 0);
                                              writeLink(2135154, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,T", "<i>This could get interesting. ...</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:50 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(2135159, 0, 0, 262, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,T", "<i>I have no sympathies for...</i>", "08-17-2021", "05:08 PM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(2135165, 0, 0, 718, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,T", "<i>It will be nice to see PWCC...</i>", "08-17-2021", "05:17 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(2135172, 0, 0, 621940, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,T", "<i>I just received an email from...</i>", "08-17-2021", "05:27 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(2135184, 0, 0, 105524, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,L", "<i>‘When elephants fight, the...</i>", "08-17-2021", "05:45 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(2135307, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,1,L", "<i>I don't think this changes...</i>", "08-18-2021", "02:44 AM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(2135320, 0, 0, 626835, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,2,L", "<i>The banning of PWCC is a huge...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:33 AM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135322, 0, 0, 622078, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,T", "<i>Alot happened in a very very...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:49 AM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(2135335, 0, 0, 619282, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,L", "<i>to all of those who are...</i>", "08-18-2021", "07:56 AM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(2135364, 0, 0, 607424, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,1,L", "<i>It's true that PWCC's money...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:02 AM", 0);
                                                                  writeLink(2135365, 0, 0, 138823, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,T", "<i>From PWCC's site: \n \nPWCC...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:07 AM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135367, 0, 0, 386, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,T", "<i>I'm in the you can't compete...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:27 AM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(2135370, 0, 0, 101355, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,I,L", "<i>what a shock</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:36 AM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(2135373, 0, 0, 622078, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,I,1,L", "<i>Long and interesting...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:48 AM", 0);
                                                                          writeLink(2135376, 0, 0, 769879, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,I,2,L", "Blocking Sellers on Ebay...", "08-18-2021", "10:00 AM", 0);
                                                                            writeLink(2135386, 0, 0, 112542, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,I,3,L", "<i>See...</i>", "08-18-2021", "10:44 AM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135485, 0, 0, 619282, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,T", "<i>Trust us moving forward? You...</i>", "08-18-2021", "04:10 PM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(2135539, 0, 0, 189578, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,I,L", "<i>I’m a bit late and working my...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:58 PM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135496, 0, 0, 80895, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,L", "<i>I have been expecting the...</i>", "08-18-2021", "05:02 PM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(2135499, 0, 0, 688499, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,1,L", "<i>Hey Jeff, \nI have a Ryan...</i>", "08-18-2021", "05:12 PM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(2135819, 0, 0, 148, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,2,L", "<i>What I am waiting for is for...</i>", "08-19-2021", "03:09 PM", 0);
                                                                          writeLink(2135821, 0, 0, 617283, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,3,T", "<i>Boom exactly I mentioned the...</i>", "08-19-2021", "03:12 PM", 0);
                                                                          writeLink(2135895, 0, 0, 624099, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,3,L", "<i>Same thing happens with...</i>", "08-19-2021", "05:46 PM", 0);
                                                                            writeLink(2135906, 0, 0, 560595, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,4,L", "<i>So true.  The manipulation is...</i>", "08-19-2021", "06:15 PM", 0);
                                                                              writeLink(2135921, 0, 0, 617283, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,5,L", "<i>I sit and think back it’s...</i>", "08-19-2021", "06:40 PM", 0);
                                                                                writeLink(2135924, 0, 0, 617549, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,6,L", "<i>Totally agree with the...</i>", "08-19-2021", "06:45 PM", 0);
                                                                                  writeLink(2135941, 0, 0, 203647, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,7,L", "<i>&quot;Market price&quot; has changed...</i>", "08-19-2021", "07:04 PM", 0);
                                                                                    writeLink(2135944, 0, 0, 621693, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,8,T", "<i>Has anyone ever thought that...</i>", "08-19-2021", "07:11 PM", 0);
                                                                                      writeLink(2136002, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,8,I,L", "<i>Valid point.</i>", "08-19-2021", "08:35 PM", 0);
                                                                                    writeLink(2135945, 0, 0, 619282, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,I,8,L", "<i>On a related note, for those...</i>", "08-19-2021", "07:11 PM", 0);
                                                                  writeLink(2135481, 0, 0, 619282, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,2,L", "<i>I seriously doubt the FBI is...</i>", "08-18-2021", "04:03 PM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135483, 0, 0, 604304, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,3,L", "<i>So, eBay just decided this is...</i>", "08-18-2021", "04:05 PM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(2135486, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,4,L", "<i>There is no scenario where...</i>", "08-18-2021", "04:14 PM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(2135493, 0, 0, 617283, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,5,T", "<i>I wonder How many people have...</i>", "08-18-2021", "04:47 PM", 0);
                                                                          writeLink(2135497, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,5,I,T", "<i>For sure, there's a run on...</i>", "08-18-2021", "05:03 PM", 0);
                                                                          writeLink(2135504, 0, 0, 125565, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,5,I,L", "At least 1....", "08-18-2021", "05:23 PM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(2135521, 0, 0, 1341, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,5,L", "<i>Just another thought, but if...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:17 PM", 0);
                                                                          writeLink(2135643, 0, 0, 616184, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,6,L", "<i>I can fully understand eBay...</i>", "08-19-2021", "02:20 AM", 0);
                                                                            writeLink(2135644, 0, 0, 321541, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,7,L", "<i>Yes.  It says there is...</i>", "08-19-2021", "02:55 AM", 0);
                                                                              writeLink(2135655, 0, 0, 637, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,8,L", "<i>I've won items from PWCC in...</i>", "08-19-2021", "06:31 AM", 0);
                                                                                writeLink(2135666, 0, 0, 119, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,9,L", "Pwcc", "08-19-2021", "07:04 AM", 0);
                                                                                  writeLink(2135669, 0, 0, 763, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,10,T", "<i>Seeing a few new ads for the...</i>", "08-19-2021", "07:15 AM", 0);
                                                                                  writeLink(2135672, 0, 0, 604638, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,10,L", "<i>Maybe it just went to the...</i>", "08-19-2021", "07:22 AM", 0);
                                                                                    writeLink(2135678, 0, 0, 69, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,11,L", "<i>And on perfect cue...in...</i>", "08-19-2021", "07:34 AM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135400, 0, 0, 130281, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,T", "<i>+1 to all. Just the thought...</i>", "08-18-2021", "11:32 AM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(2135408, 0, 0, 691039, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,L", "<i>Is there a chance this move...</i>", "08-18-2021", "11:58 AM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(2135411, 0, 0, 1062, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,1,T", "Dean's", "08-18-2021", "12:02 PM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(2135416, 0, 0, 604304, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,I,1,L", "<i>Guessing, but doubtful that...</i>", "08-18-2021", "12:11 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135426, 0, 0, 262, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,3,L", "<i>Ebay has operated out of...</i>", "08-18-2021", "12:30 PM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(2135438, 0, 0, 624099, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,4,L", "<i>PWCC already has their own...</i>", "08-18-2021", "01:01 PM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(2135443, 0, 0, 178, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,5,T", "<i>Just a guess, but PWCC will...</i>", "08-18-2021", "01:25 PM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(2135446, 0, 0, 621584, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,5,T", "<i>This is wonderful news! I am...</i>", "08-18-2021", "01:35 PM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(2135465, 0, 0, 125565, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,5,L", "Good luck....", "08-18-2021", "03:25 PM", 0);
                                                                  writeLink(2135468, 0, 0, 760193, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,6,T", "<i>lol REA isn't pussyfooting...</i>", "08-18-2021", "03:37 PM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135470, 0, 0, 617066, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,6,I,T", "<i>I think it's human nature to...</i>", "08-18-2021", "03:41 PM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135471, 0, 0, 617283, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,6,I,T", "<i>What about their long time...</i>", "08-18-2021", "03:42 PM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135472, 0, 0, 604304, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,6,I,T", "<i>That's freaking great LOL.</i>", "08-18-2021", "03:43 PM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(2135475, 0, 0, 617066, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,6,I,I,L", "<i>I'd have trouble sleeping...</i>", "08-18-2021", "03:50 PM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(2135478, 0, 0, 604304, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,6,I,I,1,L", "<i>I've a ways to go before I'm...</i>", "08-18-2021", "03:57 PM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135494, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,6,I,L", "<i>Seems to me as though PWCC...</i>", "08-18-2021", "04:49 PM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(2135501, 0, 0, 619282, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,6,I,1,T", "<i>Before PWCC decides to...</i>", "08-18-2021", "05:15 PM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(2135506, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,6,I,1,I,L", "<i>So is having a losing hand,...</i>", "08-18-2021", "05:27 PM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(2135502, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,6,I,1,L", "<i>I doubt PWCC sues.  No way it...</i>", "08-18-2021", "05:15 PM", 0);
                                                                  writeLink(2135546, 0, 0, 185, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,6,L", "<i>Here's my view: \n \nThe big...</i>", "08-18-2021", "07:08 PM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135567, 0, 0, 617283, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,7,L", "<i>I don&#8217;t think Pwcc will do as...</i>", "08-18-2021", "08:24 PM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(2135569, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,I,8,L", "<i>The inevitable short term run...</i>", "08-18-2021", "08:29 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(2135177, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,L", "<i>Not gone at all.  Brentsy...</i>", "08-17-2021", "05:35 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(2135179, 0, 0, 718, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,T", "<i>Atleast they will be gone...</i>", "08-17-2021", "05:39 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(2135181, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,T", "<i>True that.</i>", "08-17-2021", "05:40 PM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(2135183, 0, 0, 617283, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,I,L", "<i>Teflon Don.  \n \n \nCan the VCP...</i>", "08-17-2021", "05:43 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135185, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,I,1,T", "<i>LOL for some cards that would...</i>", "08-17-2021", "05:46 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135197, 0, 0, 763, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,I,1,T", "<i>And still people ADMIT they...</i>", "08-17-2021", "06:20 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135202, 0, 0, 760193, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,I,1,T", "<i>I think this was clearly a...</i>", "08-17-2021", "06:33 PM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(2135228, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,I,1,I,L", "<i>And could it also be to...</i>", "08-17-2021", "07:20 PM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(2135235, 0, 1, 464, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,I,1,I,1,L", "<i>This is from eBay now.</i>", "08-17-2021", "07:29 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135224, 0, 0, 619386, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,I,1,L", "Which is worse?", "08-17-2021", "07:17 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(2135336, 0, 0, 617549, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,L", "<i>can't see their own platform...</i>", "08-18-2021", "07:57 AM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(2135347, 0, 0, 620053, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,1,L", "<i>That was my thought. I'm sure...</i>", "08-18-2021", "08:19 AM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135361, 0, 0, 763, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,2,T", "<i>As the housing bubble...</i>", "08-18-2021", "08:45 AM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135383, 0, 0, 160725, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,2,L", "<i>This was my first thought....</i>", "08-18-2021", "10:38 AM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(2135393, 0, 0, 239, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,3,L", "<i>Anyone who does frequent...</i>", "08-18-2021", "11:15 AM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(2135394, 0, 0, 183004, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,I,4,L", "<i>In just happy I dont have to...</i>", "08-18-2021", "11:20 AM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(2135198, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,I,1,L", "<i>Agreed, but don't you think...</i>", "08-17-2021", "06:25 PM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(2135207, 0, 0, 13680, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,I,L", "<i>I have told this story many...</i>", "08-17-2021", "06:52 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(2135195, 0, 0, 4340, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,L", "No way", "08-17-2021", "06:15 PM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(2135214, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,I,1,L", "<i>Agree with you Howard.  Don't...</i>", "08-17-2021", "06:59 PM", 0);
                                              writeLink(2135186, 0, 0, 80895, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,T", "<i>Unlike spaghetti sauce, the...</i>", "08-17-2021", "05:46 PM", 0);
                                              writeLink(2135242, 0, 0, 239, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,L", "<i>The part in bold is just...</i>", "08-17-2021", "07:55 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(2135248, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,1,T", "<i>Never mind that, consider the...</i>", "08-17-2021", "08:09 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(2135334, 0, 0, 176, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,1,L", "<i>Wasn’t there a thread a few...</i>", "08-18-2021", "07:45 AM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(2135366, 0, 1, 236789, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,I,2,L", "<i>....</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:22 AM", 0);
                                            writeLink(2135152, 0, 0, 193962, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,T", "<i>If you go to check on PWCC's...</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:48 PM", 0);
                                            writeLink(2135156, 0, 1, 105524, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,I,3,L", "<i>Here's what we have so far......</i>", "08-17-2021", "04:55 PM", 0);
                                    writeLink(2135288, 0, 0, 822, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,1,L", "<i>You done good...:oThey would...</i>", "08-17-2021", "10:36 PM", 0);
                                      writeLink(2135295, 0, 0, 359, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,2,L", "Ecommercebytes article", "08-17-2021", "11:21 PM", 0);
                                        writeLink(2135306, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,3,L", "<i>Wow! Pretty crazy turn of...</i>", "08-18-2021", "02:38 AM", 0);
                                          writeLink(2135417, 0, 0, 262, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,4,L", "<i>Pretty much agree with all of...</i>", "08-18-2021", "12:16 PM", 0);
                                            writeLink(2135421, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,T", "<i>Here's a thought -" + "- PWCC now...</i>", "08-18-2021", "12:22 PM", 0);
                                              writeLink(2135432, 0, 0, 160725, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,T", "<i>Good point. If their prices...</i>", "08-18-2021", "12:41 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(2135435, 0, 0, 178, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,I,T", "<i>To quote Snowman:  \n \n&quot;1 -...</i>", "08-18-2021", "12:53 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(2135447, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,I,T", "<i>And, if they show low prices,...</i>", "08-18-2021", "01:39 PM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(2135448, 0, 0, 307554, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,I,I,L", "<i>Can the house bid on their...</i>", "08-18-2021", "01:47 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(2135484, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,I,L", "<i>How so? Why would this not be...</i>", "08-18-2021", "04:05 PM", 0);
                                              writeLink(2135477, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,L", "<i>Do you believe this incentive...</i>", "08-18-2021", "03:56 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(2135482, 0, 0, 160725, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,1,T", "<i>See the screen shot in post...</i>", "08-18-2021", "04:05 PM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(2135511, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,1,I,L", "<i>I've read it. Multiple times....</i>", "08-18-2021", "05:52 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(2135523, 0, 0, 160725, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,1,I,1,L", "<i>You don't by any chance own a...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:20 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(2135526, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,1,I,2,L", "<i>No, definitely not. And since...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:26 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(2135507, 0, 0, 763, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,1,L", "<i>Got to have your name in your...</i>", "08-18-2021", "05:45 PM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(2135512, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,2,L", "<i>I am not slandering or...</i>", "08-18-2021", "05:59 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(2135513, 0, 0, 763, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,3,L", "<i>Not my rules \n \n If you write...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:01 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(2135518, 0, 0, 628617, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,4,T", "<i>I've read through this...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:10 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(2135522, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,4,L", "<i>I intend to follow the rules....</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:19 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(2135525, 0, 0, 763, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,T", "<i>Seem to know an awful lot,...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:22 PM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(2135530, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,L", "<i>I know a fair amount about a...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:37 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(2135527, 0, 0, 160725, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,T", "<i>Interesting that you would...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:26 PM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(2135531, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,T", "<i>Well, it's up to Leon, but in...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:38 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135533, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,L", "<i>The single DeLorme screenshot...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:43 PM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(2135542, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,1,L", "<i>No, I did not know DeLorme....</i>", "08-18-2021", "07:00 PM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(2135545, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,2,T", "<i>Well when I post something...</i>", "08-18-2021", "07:07 PM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(2135573, 0, 0, 385484, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,2,L", "<i>In the screenshot he...</i>", "08-18-2021", "08:37 PM", 0);
                                                                  writeLink(2135577, 0, 0, 385484, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,3,L", "<i>For the folks that say they...</i>", "08-18-2021", "08:42 PM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135579, 0, 0, 617283, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,T", "<i>Throw out PWCC as a...</i>", "08-18-2021", "08:47 PM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(2135582, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,T", "<i>Like the old Russian judge...</i>", "08-18-2021", "08:53 PM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(2135583, 0, 0, 619282, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,L", "<i>except that the numbers you...</i>", "08-18-2021", "08:56 PM", 0);
                                                                          writeLink(2135584, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,1,L", "<i>It's a giant cluster fork.</i>", "08-18-2021", "08:57 PM", 0);
                                                                            writeLink(2135592, 0, 0, 616859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,2,L", "<i>There was an interesting post...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:12 PM", 0);
                                                                              writeLink(2135594, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,3,L", "<i>From the new PWCC FAQ...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:20 PM", 0);
                                                                                writeLink(2135596, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,T", "<i>Now for a comment, Brent...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:21 PM", 0);
                                                                                  writeLink(2135600, 0, 0, 718, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,I,T", "<i>One thing you have to...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:41 PM", 0);
                                                                                    writeLink(2135602, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,I,I,T", "<i>But why, Howard?  Not being...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:45 PM", 0);
                                                                                      writeLink(2135609, 0, 0, 718, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,I,I,I,L", "<i>Well, REA has built up their...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:57 PM", 0);
                                                                                        writeLink(2135610, 0, 0, 617788, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,I,I,I,1,L", "<i>Interesting.  \nHow long ago...</i>", "08-18-2021", "10:00 PM", 0);
                                                                                          writeLink(2135611, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,I,I,I,2,L", "<i>I think perhaps a couple of...</i>", "08-18-2021", "10:01 PM", 0);
                                                                                            writeLink(2135612, 0, 0, 617788, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,I,I,I,3,L", "<i>I'm not a lawyer expert but I...</i>", "08-18-2021", "10:03 PM", 0);
                                                                                              writeLink(2135614, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,I,I,I,4,L", "<i>Well, in a criminal case...</i>", "08-18-2021", "10:05 PM", 0);
                                                                                                writeLink(2135616, 0, 0, 617788, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,I,I,I,5,L", "<i>I would think so.  \n \nWe'll...</i>", "08-18-2021", "10:08 PM", 0);
                                                                                    writeLink(2135607, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,I,I,L", "<i>Yes Howard, but I'd guess...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:54 PM", 0);
                                                                                  writeLink(2135604, 0, 0, 617788, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,I,L", "<i>I guess it's safe to say it...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:51 PM", 0);
                                                                                    writeLink(2135606, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,I,1,L", "<i>I don't know the details.  I...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:53 PM", 0);
                                                                                writeLink(2136383, 0, 0, 148, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,4,L", "<i>Comment: \n...</i>", "08-20-2021", "04:41 PM", 0);
                                                                                  writeLink(2136387, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,5,T", "<i>A rather remarkable comment...</i>", "08-20-2021", "04:45 PM", 0);
                                                                                  writeLink(2136389, 0, 0, 148, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,5,L", "<i>Guys, before you use some...</i>", "08-20-2021", "04:52 PM", 0);
                                                                                    writeLink(2136397, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,6,T", "<i>I'm moving to NH.  Live Free...</i>", "08-20-2021", "05:11 PM", 0);
                                                                                      writeLink(2136406, 0, 0, 617289, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,6,I,T", "<i>No Peter, it's better than...</i>", "08-20-2021", "05:45 PM", 0);
                                                                                        writeLink(2137294, 0, 0, 4257, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,6,I,I,L", "<i>Or as my NH friends once put...</i>", "08-22-2021", "11:18 PM", 0);
                                                                                          writeLink(2137338, 0, 0, 624922, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,6,I,I,1,L", "<i>Interesting video with a PWCC...</i>", "08-23-2021", "07:00 AM", 0);
                                                                                            writeLink(2137407, 0, 0, 617283, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,6,I,I,2,L", "<i>Thanks I watched This One...</i>", "08-23-2021", "11:08 AM", 0);
                                                                                              writeLink(2137420, 0, 0, 617289, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,6,I,I,3,L", "<i>Watched the You Tube video. ...</i>", "08-23-2021", "11:50 AM", 0);
                                                                                                writeLink(2137430, 0, 0, 617283, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,6,I,I,4,L", "<i>Who are the other two people...</i>", "08-23-2021", "12:12 PM", 0);
                                                                                                  writeLink(2137436, 0, 0, 617289, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,6,I,I,5,L", "<i>2 Sports Cards bloggers I've...</i>", "08-23-2021", "12:33 PM", 0);
                                                                                      writeLink(2137293, 0, 0, 4257, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,6,I,L", "<i>Until you get the property...</i>", "08-22-2021", "11:17 PM", 0);
                                                                                    writeLink(2136417, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,6,L", "<i>Adam,  I said the same thing...</i>", "08-20-2021", "06:13 PM", 0);
                                                                                      writeLink(2136429, 0, 0, 148, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,7,L", "<i>The duty to remit isn't...</i>", "08-20-2021", "07:14 PM", 0);
                                                                                        writeLink(2136433, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,T", "<i>After I ask PWCC for tax...</i>", "08-20-2021", "07:20 PM", 0);
                                                                                          writeLink(2136444, 0, 0, 719053, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,L", "<i>It's a shame that PWCC's own...</i>", "08-20-2021", "07:36 PM", 0);
                                                                                            writeLink(2136466, 0, 0, 239, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,1,L", "<i>Regarding the part in bold,...</i>", "08-20-2021", "08:23 PM", 0);
                                                                                              writeLink(2136470, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,2,L", "<i>People just don't get it. ...</i>", "08-20-2021", "08:24 PM", 0);
                                                                                                writeLink(2136472, 0, 0, 617283, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,3,T", "<i>Maybe they will show up at...</i>", "08-20-2021", "08:31 PM", 0);
                                                                                                writeLink(2136479, 0, 0, 719053, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,3,L", "<i>I guess we can't all be as...</i>", "08-20-2021", "08:50 PM", 0);
                                                                                                  writeLink(2136481, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,4,L", "<i>It has nothing to do with me....</i>", "08-20-2021", "08:52 PM", 0);
                                                                                                    writeLink(2136491, 0, 0, 719053, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,5,L", "<i>Like I said, wish we were all...</i>", "08-20-2021", "09:09 PM", 0);
                                                                                                      writeLink(2136497, 0, 0, 215578, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,6,L", "<i>If someone uses an auction...</i>", "08-20-2021", "09:22 PM", 0);
                                                                                                        writeLink(2136508, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,7,T", "<i>Clearly the person...</i>", "08-20-2021", "10:03 PM", 0);
                                                                                                        writeLink(2136692, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,7,L", "<i>The problem with this theory...</i>", "08-21-2021", "01:10 PM", 0);
                                                                                                          writeLink(2136694, 0, 0, 215578, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,8,T", "<i>That was not a theory I...</i>", "08-21-2021", "01:19 PM", 0);
                                                                                                            writeLink(2136697, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,8,I,L", "<i>FOMO is potent stuff.</i>", "08-21-2021", "01:26 PM", 0);
                                                                                                              writeLink(2136701, 0, 0, 215578, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,8,I,1,L", "<i>Indeed it is, Peter. And...</i>", "08-21-2021", "01:35 PM", 0);
                                                                                                          writeLink(2136698, 0, 0, 8386, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,8,L", "auction platforms allowing...", "08-21-2021", "01:32 PM", 0);
                                                                                                            writeLink(2136714, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,I,9,L", "<i>I would agree with you if...</i>", "08-21-2021", "02:07 PM", 0);
                                                                                        writeLink(2136476, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,8,L", "<i>I know, that's why I was...</i>", "08-20-2021", "08:46 PM", 0);
                                                                                          writeLink(2136477, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,9,L", "<i>What does it mean to USE the...</i>", "08-20-2021", "08:49 PM", 0);
                                                                                            writeLink(2136505, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,I,10,L", "<i>I know that may sound dumb,...</i>", "08-20-2021", "09:52 PM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(2135585, 0, 0, 385484, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,L", "<i>Doesn’t work that way unless...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:04 PM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(2135588, 0, 0, 617283, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,I,1,L", "<i>Hopefully the rest will wake...</i>", "08-18-2021", "09:09 PM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135765, 0, 0, 725663, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,4,L", "<i>It is very simple for me. I...</i>", "08-19-2021", "12:43 PM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(2135768, 0, 0, 130281, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,5,T", "<i>The question is how you...</i>", "08-19-2021", "01:00 PM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(2135783, 0, 0, 725663, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,5,I,L", "<i>It is not that complicated, I...</i>", "08-19-2021", "02:01 PM", 0);
                                                                          writeLink(2135786, 0, 0, 593, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,5,I,1,T", "<i>That’s called being an...</i>", "08-19-2021", "02:10 PM", 0);
                                                                            writeLink(2135788, 0, 0, 725663, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,5,I,1,I,L", "<i>I am enabler....that is rich....</i>", "08-19-2021", "02:13 PM", 0);
                                                                              writeLink(2135797, 0, 0, 321541, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,5,I,1,I,1,T", "<i>&lt;iframe width=&quot;560&quot;...</i>", "08-19-2021", "02:38 PM", 0);
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                                                                                    writeLink(2136374, 0, 0, 154, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,5,I,1,I,2,I,1,L", "<i>The idea of their vault is...</i>", "08-20-2021", "04:24 PM", 0);
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                                                                            writeLink(2135864, 0, 0, 725663, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,5,I,2,L", "<i>Try not to be factious. Of...</i>", "08-19-2021", "04:33 PM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(2135781, 0, 0, 617066, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,5,L", "<i>This sounds like the...</i>", "08-19-2021", "02:00 PM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(2135784, 0, 0, 725663, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,I,6,L", "<i>I beg to differ. Buying a car...</i>", "08-19-2021", "02:05 PM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(2135535, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,L", "<i>Leon knows who I am. He has...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:47 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135537, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,1,T", "<i>You're obviously highly...</i>", "08-18-2021", "06:56 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135580, 0, 0, 617788, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,1,T", "<i>Carry on and don't worry what...</i>", "08-18-2021", "08:50 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(2135744, 0, 0, 621584, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,1,L", "<i>Well, if you're not going to...</i>", "08-19-2021", "11:39 AM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(2135746, 0, 0, 48248, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,2,T", "<i>Huh. I was thinking his name...</i>", "08-19-2021", "11:48 AM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(2135747, 0, 0, 239, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,2,L", "<i>Based on his history, I...</i>", "08-19-2021", "11:53 AM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(2135751, 0, 0, 130281, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,3,T", "<i>the one and only Snowman...</i>", "08-19-2021", "12:02 PM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(2135753, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,3,L", "<i>Yes that was his Blowout ID. ...</i>", "08-19-2021", "12:04 PM", 0);
                                                                  writeLink(2135770, 0, 0, 621584, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,4,L", "<i>Back to PWCC ...  \n \nHere is...</i>", "08-19-2021", "01:06 PM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135774, 0, 0, 622078, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,5,T", "<i>Good Point and Very...</i>", "08-19-2021", "01:20 PM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(2135777, 0, 0, 203647, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,5,L", "<i>And prices on a larger scale....</i>", "08-19-2021", "01:40 PM", 0);
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                                                          writeLink(2135613, 0, 0, 751859, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,L", "<i>Thank you for the...</i>", "08-18-2021", "10:05 PM", 0);
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                                                          writeLink(2135625, 0, 0, 43, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,I,L", "<i>Yeah, there is just no way...</i>", "08-18-2021", "10:35 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(2135671, 0, 0, 763, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,I,5,L", "<i>Awfully peculiar In my...</i>", "08-19-2021", "07:22 AM", 0);
                                            writeLink(2135425, 0, 0, 171482, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,T", "<i>So what'll happen over the...</i>", "08-18-2021", "12:27 PM", 0);
                                            writeLink(2135434, 0, 0, 619058, "I,2,I,1,I,2,I,I,2,I,I,1,I,5,L", "What's Rob Gough Thinking Now?", "08-18-2021", "12:44 PM", 0);
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					Originally Posted by <strong>egbeachley</strong>
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				<div style="font-style:italic">That&#8217;s called being an &#8220;enabler&#8221;. Shillers prey on people like you because you are happy paying your highest price when, without shilling, you would get many items for much less.</div>
			
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</div>I am enabler....that is rich. <br />
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Scenario for you. Once card sells for x amount and has a buy it now price on it.<br />
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Another card starts out at y price then ends up at x price. (Both the same price).<br />
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What do you call that? No one enabled anyone with either sale of the card.<br />
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And in this scenario we are talking about the same card type just different methods of how it is sold. <br />
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