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01-05-2023, 01:53 PM

sb1

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For clarity Ramleh/Helmar and Ramly are two entirely different companies, in fact the two were in a law-suit also highlighted above, which Anargyros decided to simply turn Ramleh around and use Helmar to avoid the confusion of the two brands.

Only Ramly(Mentor Co.) produced and distributed the T204 cards, all of which are quite scarce when compared to other tobacco issues of the day.

I only find advertising for the card issue for about 3 weeks in 1909. I have a hunch and that is all it is, that they used the Horner images without permission and may have come under fire for that, although no court records seem to show any type of action. Timayenis was never afraid of litigation or to take shortcuts which gives me reason to suspect his unauthorized use of the Horner images. Whoever produced and/or printed them simply tilted each image a few degrees and removed the various team names.

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