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Never mind...</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I was thinking more like Ren and Stimpy...<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/76/The_Ren_and_Stimpy_Show_Title_Card.jpg/250px-The_Ren_and_Stimpy_Show_Title_Card.jpg" border="0" alt="" />\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Read my blog; it will make all your dreams come true.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/" target="_blank">https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nOr not...\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=932494" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 932494 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_932494_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Exhibitman</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=148">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=148" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Exhibitman</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="http://www.americasgreatboxingcards.com/">Visit Exhibitman\'s homepage!</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=148" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Exhibitman</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 932494 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #932494 -' + '->';
pd[932509] = '<!-' + '- post #932509 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit932509" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post932509" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=932509&amp;postcount=4" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount932509" name="4"><strong>4</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post932509"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				10-17-2011, 01:00 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=631"><img src="image.php?u=631&amp;dateline=1242094660"   alt="iggyman\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_932509">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=631">iggyman</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="iggyman is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_932509", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nI. &quot;Iggy&quot; G0nz@lez\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				"rich"\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: May 2009</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 943\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_932509">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_932509">\r\n			\r\n			Nice try, but you are forgetting something.  If you look closely at the earlobes......<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=47671&amp;d=1318874207"  title="Name:  karu baseball honus wagner.jpg\r\nViews: 508\r\nSize:  14.1 KB">karu baseball honus wagner.jpg</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nThus, my vote is in:<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=47670&amp;d=1318873955"  title="Name:  the_three_stooges_image__3_.jpg\r\nViews: 509\r\nSize:  37.3 KB">the_three_stooges_image__3_.jpg</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nThey are practically <strike>twins</strike> triplets!   <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="http://www.net54baseball.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=47672&amp;d=1318875838"  title="Name:  cobbedwards.jpg\r\nViews: 502\r\nSize:  8.2 KB">cobbedwards.jpg</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nLovely Day...\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- attachments -' + '->\r\n			<div style="padding:6px">\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / attachments -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by iggyman; 10-17-2011 at <span class="time">01:26 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=932509" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 932509 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_932509_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">iggyman</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=631">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=631" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to iggyman</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=631" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by iggyman</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 932509 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #932509 -' + '->';
pd[933347] = '<!-' + '- post #933347 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit933347" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post933347" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=933347&amp;postcount=5" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount933347" name="5"><strong>5</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post933347"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				10-21-2011, 04:51 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_933347">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=35763">ls7plus</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="ls7plus is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_933347", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nLarry\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Dec 2010</div>\r\n					<div>Location: Southfield, Michigan</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 1,765\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_933347">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_933347">\r\n			\r\n			<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>glynparson</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=932412#post932412" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">I dont need a loupe for any of those counterfeits either, but I guess that\'s because I know what I am doing.  If you need a loupe to tell that card is fake you know nothing about T206\'s.  if you have been around snce the 1980\'s and need a loupe to tell that is fake you have not learned very much about your hobby.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Much more closer to the truth is that you would be completely lost without one, as the counterfeit details of many of those cards are not at all clear to the naked eye.  With regard to the trimmed cards, many of the most famous dealers prior to TPG in the early \'90\'s carred a loupe with them to shows where they bought raw material in order to check the edges in just the manner I specified, because the cards would indeed measure correctly, and the trimming could not be detected with the human eye.  Instead, magnification was required to properly examine the edges and to compare their much sharper appearance against those known to have been factory cuts.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIt would clearly seem that you have voluntarily chosen to fall within the category of those befallen by prejudice and/or arrogance, prefering to decide the issue presented on the basis of who these people who own the card are and how different they are from you, when what is really important are the actual facts pertaining to the card itself.  You can attempt to rebutt me all you like, but you can\'t kid yourself about what you really see deep inside you, and you won\'t change the actual facts about your behavior until you yourself change!  Your hostility is only indicative of the truth of the above, which, when you\'ve been brought face to face with it, brings about resentment on your part, and the nastiness comes through.  I feel sorrow for your pent-up hatred, which causes you to behave in a manner which you most likely would not prefer, and tends quite strongly to make a complete fool out of you.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBest wishes on a successful metamorphis, becoming a person more willing to objectively consider various sources of actually relevant information, rather than jump to a conclusion based on all the wrong reasons.  Remember, my initial post in this thread merely indicated I would like to have more objective information conderning the card itself, rather than people\'s reactions to the identity of the would-be seller.  I did not take any position with regard to the card\'s validity at all, and most assuredly did not start the nasty comments, but as you have readily seen, am more than capable of defending my position against them.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nLarry\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by ls7plus; 10-21-2011 at <span class="time">05:25 AM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=933347" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 933347 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_933347_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">ls7plus</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=35763">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=35763" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to ls7plus</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=35763" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by ls7plus</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 933347 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #933347 -' + '->';
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It appeared on ebay many times before anyone knew anything about the sellers so saying someone based their opinion on the card solely based on their opinion of the sellers is extremely way off base, you couldn\'t be more wrong. Also in response to Glyn you start mentioning the reasons you need a loupe for t206s that have nothing to do with THIS card which is what he was referring. I don\'t know if you can\'t see the cards posted in this thread but if you can AND you\'re still trying to defend your position against it, no one is taking your serious anymore. This card is well known, its been around way too long to still try to have meaningful discussions on the possibility they might be right/wrong<br />\r\n<br />\r\nHundreds of legit people have said this card is fake based on legit knowledge while two people now with no apparent knowledge of t206 cards have said it could be from that era based on paper samples of the back of the card which means they would also say the same thing about a child\'s drawing of Honus Wagner glued to the front of a t206 card peeled in half.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIf I posted my card which is the same exact reprint they have and kept pushing it as real I would instantly have zero credibility and I\'ve done well over 200 deals with various board members. 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On all the pics I have of known real Wagners that lettering is either the same or lighter.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThere\'s a serious loss of detail above TSB on the uniform. A lack of detail seen on no other Wagner. Loss of detail is typical of a rescreened printing (Read reprint) <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe aging is very atypical of actual aging. The aging IS typical of a modern reprint dipped in tea or something similar. That highlights cracks in the glosscoat, which is what we see on the card in question.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIt appears to have a slight diamond cut, not unusual for a T206 ....But on the sides which is unusual if not unique for a T206 <br />\r\n<br />\r\nSo if we\'re to believe it\'s real then we also have to believe that a very early borderless proof printed from a stone etched entirely differently than any other T206 including unreleased players was somehow finished with the production back as NO other proofs were, and glosscoated as only a very few T206s were(Some of the Cobb backs are the only glosscoated ones I\'ve heard of)<br />\r\nAnd then for some reason cut by machine like a production card, but differently than very nearly all of the production cards.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnd that that unique unreleased T206 just happened to be a Wagner.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAll that is objective.<br />\r\nIf my mother found that card I\'d think it was a reprint.<br />\r\nIf it wasn\'t Wagner I\'d think it was a reprint.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nYes, the loupe can be handy. I use a 30X one myself, as well as high resolution scans if I want to have a good close look at something. And I use it more as my eyes get old. 20 years ago I could see the dot patterns on fakes without the loupe. Not so much today<img src="forum/images/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" class="inlineimg" /><br />\r\n<br />\r\nYeah, I\'d like to see a 1200DPI scan. Or have the card in hand. If only to remove the .000009% chance it might be real.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSteve B<br />\r\n<br />\r\n <div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>ls7plus</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=933347#post933347" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Much more closer to the truth is that you would be completely lost without one, as the counterfeit details of many of those cards are not at all clear to the naked eye.  With regard to the trimmed cards, many of the most famous dealers prior to TPG in the early \'90\'s carred a loupe with them to shows where they bought raw material in order to check the edges in just the manner I specified, because the cards would indeed measure correctly, and the trimming could not be detected with the human eye.  Instead, magnification was required to properly examine the edges and to compare their much sharper appearance against those known to have been factory cuts.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIt would clearly seem that you have voluntarily chosen to fall within the category of those befallen by prejudice and/or arrogance, prefering to decide the issue presented on the basis of who these people who own the card are and how different they are from you, when what is really important are the actual facts pertaining to the card itself.  You can attempt to rebutt me all you like, but you can\'t kid yourself about what you really see deep inside you, and you won\'t change the actual facts about your behavior until you yourself change!  Your hostility is only indicative of the truth of the above, which, when you\'ve been brought face to face with it, brings about resentment on your part, and the nastiness comes through.  I feel sorrow for your pent-up hatred, which causes you to behave in a manner which you most likely would not prefer, and tends quite strongly to make a complete fool out of you.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBest wishes on a successful metamorphis, becoming a person more willing to objectively consider various sources of actually relevant information, rather than jump to a conclusion based on all the wrong reasons.  Remember, my initial post in this thread merely indicated I would like to have more objective information conderning the card itself, rather than people\'s reactions to the identity of the would-be seller.  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On all the pics I have of known real Wagners that lettering is either the same or lighter.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThere\'s a serious loss of detail above TSB on the uniform. A lack of detail seen on no other Wagner. Loss of detail is typical of a rescreened printing (Read reprint) <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe aging is very atypical of actual aging. The aging IS typical of a modern reprint dipped in tea or something similar. That highlights cracks in the glosscoat, which is what we see on the card in question.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIt appears to have a slight diamond cut, not unusual for a T206 ....But on the sides which is unusual if not unique for a T206 </div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Steve, you might be new to this discussion, but....<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe legitimacy of this card is no longer questioned, and hasn\'t been for many, many years, by anyone who has any understanding of lithography and/or scammer behavior (either will do).  It was a laughable fake then, and it still is.  I was surprised when it first came out and anyone even bothered saying \'why\' it\'s a fake - it\'s a fake because it\'s an obvious fake, even from photographs.  All the things they did to it to try to make it look real are irrelevant.  If they really wanted to pass it off as real, they could have picked a better reprint to start with.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nOkay, so throw that card away, next thought:  there are just not very many t206 Wagners existing.  If we were to ever see a \'previously unreleased version\' of ANY t206, do you really think it would be drastically different from all other t206\'s in every respect other than size, and do you really think it would be of a t206 as rare as the Wagner?  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Let\'s say someone had the real deal and the front was somehow destroyed.  The person then takes the "REAL" back from a REAL T-206 Honus Wagner card and pastes a fake Wagner front to it.  Wouldn\'t that make it half real?  <img src="forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" /><br />\r\n<br />\r\nHas this horse been beaten to death yet?\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				fr3d c0wl3s - always looking for OJs and other 19th century stuff.  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When I see something that makes absolutely no sense, I question it.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nHere\'s this new grading company called ACA that really none of us has heard of. They\'re trying to get into grading and authenticating baseball cards, a very crowded field, and one in which it is not easy to grab a market share. And in a situation like that a company feels they need to do something to draw attention to themselves. So what do they do- they take a card that is arguably the best known counterfeit in the hobby, and authenticate it. Can somebody explain this business model?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI know someone is going to say it brought them publicity, but that\'s like a doctor building his medical practice by infecting all his patients with bubonic plague. Sure, it will get him in the newspapers, but it won\'t build his practice. Like I said, this is a mystery. You can\'t build a business this way.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I actually responded to that in this thread, but it was ignored.  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I have never taken a postion with regard to this card\'s authencity.  What I have said is the following:<br />\r\n<br />\r\n(1) I would like more information with regard to the actual printing characteristics of the card;<br />\r\n<br />\r\n(2) That the more actual information one has, the better one\'s decisions tend to be;<br />\r\n<br />\r\n(3) That there have been occasions during my multiple decade involvement with this hobby, probably too numerous to count, where many people have felt they could positively authenticate a card or not, concerning its allegedly original, unaltered condition, based on the appearance of the card to the naked eye, and that they, including myself on several unfortunate occasions, have been wrong (this card hardly stands alone in this regard); and<br />\r\n<br />\r\n(4) magnification has been of invaluable assistance to both dealers and collectors alike, as well, I would hope, to graders, in this regard, when it is coupled with a little knowledge.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nNow, these truths should be self-evident, rather than a stimulus for vitriol and venom, and I wasn\'t the one who initiated any posts that were meant or intended to be insulting in the course of this discussion.  I\'m well aware of the history of this card, and have even read Michael O\'Keeffe\'s discussion of it in his book, "The Card" (highly recommended reading on this as well as other subjects, by the way).  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I have never taken a postion with regard to this card\'s authenticity.  What I have said is the following:<br />\n<br />\n(1) I would like more information with regard to the actual printing characteristics of the card;<br />\n<br />\n(2) That the more actual information one has, the better one\'s decisions tend to be;</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Larry, I understand your sentiments.  BUT there is no discussions or decisions to be made by "anyone" about the validity of this card, or positions to be taken.  Maybe the other counterfeits you had previously referred to.  There is one thing we know about this particular card in question, and this is a POWER FACT, so take note...  IT IS FAKE!!!!  No questions asked or needed.  I understand skepticism, but c\'mon.  It\'s glaringly obvious to the naked eye.  And no matter how many times these clowns try to pull on people\'s heart-strings by crying racism, this card was not, nor ever will be a REAL t206 Honus Wagner, an unreleased version, or anything even remotely related to the American Tobacco Company.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by novakjr; 10-21-2011 at <span class="time">11:35 AM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=933419" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 933419 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_933419_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">novakjr</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=44626">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=44626" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to novakjr</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=44626" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by novakjr</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 933419 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #933419 -' + '->';
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BUT there is no discussions or decisions to be made by "anyone" about the validity of this card, or positions to be taken.  Maybe the other counterfeits you had previously referred to.  There is one thing we know about this particular card in question, and this is a POWER FACT, so take note...  IT IS FAKE!!!!  No questions asked or needed.  I understand skepticism, but c\'mon.  It\'s glaringly obvious to the naked eye.  And no matter how many times these clowns try to pull on people\'s heart-strings by crying racism, this card was not, nor ever will be a REAL t206 Honus Wagner, an unreleased version, or anything even remotely related to the American Tobacco Company.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Yes, but what about the uncatalogued versions that actually say \'reprint\' on them?  Couldn\'t they have been released later in 1909, and the word \'reprint\' used to differentiate them from the earlier releases?  Don\'t you need to know more about their characteristics before deciding they are modern?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnd please - what better way to scam people than by posing as nuns?  I\'m from the south, so I completely understand how I am automatically guilty of racism, any time it fits the needs of someone who I disagree with, due to the acts of my g-g-g-g-grandfather.  Plus, I have always trusted nuns - sue me.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAs far as the new Canadian slabbing company goes, I think it\'s great that the Cincinnati guys finally found a company they could trust to handle their prized card.  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I have never taken a postion with regard to this card\'s authencity.  What I have said is the following:<br />\r\n<br />\r\n(1) I would like more information with regard to the actual printing characteristics of the card;<br />\r\n<br />\r\n(2) That the more actual information one has, the better one\'s decisions tend to be;<br />\r\n<br />\r\n(3) That there have been occasions during my multiple decade involvement with this hobby, probably too numerous to count, where many people have felt they could positively authenticate a card or not, concerning its allegedly original, unaltered condition, based on the appearance of the card to the naked eye, and that they, including myself on several unfortunate occasions, have been wrong (this card hardly stands alone in this regard); and<br />\r\n<br />\r\n(4) magnification has been of invaluable assistance to both dealers and collectors alike, as well, I would hope, to graders, in this regard, when it is coupled with a little knowledge.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nNow, these truths should be self-evident, rather than a stimulus for vitriol and venom, and I wasn\'t the one who initiated any posts that were meant or intended to be insulting in the course of this discussion.  I\'m well aware of the history of this card, and have even read Michael O\'Keeffe\'s discussion of it in his book, "The Card" (highly recommended reading on this as well as other subjects, by the way).  To the above 4 points, I would add a 5th:<br />\r\n<br />\r\n(5) What did this "newbie" grading service actually do in the way of examining the card to reach the conclusion they did?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI\'ve always wanted to have as much information regarding this cherished hobby as I could lay my hands on, and this occasion is simply no different!<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBest regards to all those other dedicated collectors out there, who know we hold the very history of the game itself in our hands as guardians/custodians for future generations,<br />\r\n<br />\r\nLarry</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>You left out the part where you cited racism (prejudice).  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There\'s at least one uncataloged major difference, plus what I think is a new major variety that hasn\'t really caught on. And a huge number of smaller differences.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI\'ve actually read the whole thread a few times, but only commented in detail since Larry seemed to be saying that any opinion without a close examination was biased because of the owners. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nSteve B <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Runscott</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=933383#post933383" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Steve, you might be new to this discussion, but....<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\nOkay, so throw that card away, next thought:  there are just not very many t206 Wagners existing.  If we were to ever see a \'previously unreleased version\' of ANY t206, do you really think it would be drastically different from all other t206\'s in every respect other than size, and do you really think it would be of a t206 as rare as the Wagner?  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If you are talking about the oddities that we have known about for decades, I refer you back to the rarity of the Wagner and the infinitesimally small odds of such a thing popping up for that particular card.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nPersonally, I think it would be hilarious (and sad at the same time), if this idea caught on.  Within a couple of years we might see as many (or more) of these \'uncatalogued\' versions of the T206 Wagner as we currently have actual examples of the real thing. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nAt some point, someone will figure out a computerized way of applying ink to cardboard to simulate t206-type lithography; e.g - you insert the card in a \'scanner\' of some sort, it is analyzed by a computer and proper ink jets are activated to create an exact dot pattern.  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But that was two weeks ago. My short term memory doesn\'t go that far back. Too much you know what.<img src="forum/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" /></div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>It\'s okay Barry.  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Fairly major and once you have them both in hand it\'s easy to see it\'s not fading or a print problem. Both are common. <br />\r\nThe major one was discussed here within the last year or so very sceptically, and has since been graded by PSA. I\'m deliberately avoiding that one because it\'s a bit under the radar and I\'m hoping to find one before it gets expensive.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe Wagners I have pictures of show probably 3 distinct very minor differences that I can see from the small pictures I have. I know I\'ll never own even one, but the differences are there.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSteve B <br />\r\n <div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Runscott</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=933413#post933413" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Examples please. If you are talking about the oddities that we have known about for decades, I refer you back to the rarity of the Wagner and the infinitesimally small odds of such a thing popping up for that particular card.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nPersonally, I think it would be hilarious (and sad at the same time), if this idea caught on.  Within a couple of years we might see as many (or more) of these \'uncatalogued\' versions of the T206 Wagner as we currently have actual examples of the real thing. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nAt some point, someone will figure out a computerized way of applying ink to cardboard to simulate t206-type lithography; e.g - you insert the card in a \'scanner\' of some sort, it is analyzed by a computer and proper ink jets are activated to create an exact dot pattern.  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Fairly major and once you have them both in hand it\'s easy to see it\'s not fading or a print problem. Both are common. <br />\r\nThe major one was discussed here within the last year or so very sceptically, and has since been graded by PSA. I\'m deliberately avoiding that one because it\'s a bit under the radar and I\'m hoping to find one before it gets expensive.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe Wagners I have pictures of show probably 3 distinct very minor differences that I can see from the small pictures I have. I know I\'ll never own even one, but the differences are there.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSteve B</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Steve, you have me a bit baffled.  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My earlier post listed about 5 things that made me certain it IS a fake! <br />\r\n<br />\r\nMaybe the section I had about how those things logically made the chances of it being real in any way incredibly small was confusing?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI do not think it\'s real. <br />\r\nI will admit a <b><i>very</i></b> tiny chance that I\'m wrong. <br />\r\nI\'m just as positive that If I were holding it that chance would become 0%<br />\r\n<br />\r\nSteve B<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Runscott</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=933442#post933442" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Steve, you have me a bit baffled.  So, in the few photo examples of real t206 Wagners that you have seen, you have spotted at least 3 distinct differences, yet you can\'t tell the Cincinnati one is a fake?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI\'ll leave others to discuss this with you, as I have nothing further to add that could help you with this.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=933447" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 933447 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_933447_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">steve B</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=4257">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=4257" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to steve B</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=4257" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by steve B</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 933447 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #933447 -' + '->';
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Fairly major and once you have them both in hand it\'s easy to see it\'s not fading or a print problem. Both are common.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Steve, I\'ve never been quite sure what to make of this particular type of variation - you will find the multi-colored \'indistinct\' separation differences in many, many litho cards.  Wilson does kind of stand out in that there are two that are fairly distinct, but I have seen a few \'tweeners\'.  I think it\'s likely that on this type of \'variety\', it\'s a case of having two areas on the \'red-orange\' part of the plate that were easier to separate (not enough ink on one portion) than in most backgrounds like this.  So basically, if it wasn\'t intentional, I don\'t consider it an uncatalogued \'variety\' - it\'s related to a problem with the printing process and while interesting, not an error or variety.   <br />\r\n<br />\r\nObviously, we have seen examples in other cards where the background colors are stunning, whereas other examples of the same card are less exciting.  Some of the printers must have realized that even though they had a formulaic approach to producing these, sometimes the colors didn\'t come out right.  If it was obvious, and the run didn\'t look good, it ended up in the scrap pile.  If it looked good, it was probably kept.  Obviously, the Wilson cards with various amounts of red below the orange all looked \'right\', so no need to scrap.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nCertainly the differences between a real card and a reprint are something else altogether.  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pd[933454] = '<!-' + '- post #933454 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit933454" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post933454" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=933454&amp;postcount=27" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount933454" name="27"><strong>27</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post933454"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				10-21-2011, 01:37 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_933454">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=4257">steve B</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="steve B is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_933454", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nSteve Birmingham\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Sep 2009</div>\r\n					<div>Location: eastern Mass.</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 8,464\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_933454">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_933454">\r\n			\r\n			The Wilson is a real puzzler. There are 2 basic types that seem very different, with lots of variance between them. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nEven in the late 1970\'s Litho ink colors were mixed by hand. So a simple color difference is usually just a matter of who did the mixing that day.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nProducing an exact copy fake would be nearly impossible. In theory It could be done, but the expense and technical skills required would be prohibitive.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI have some defenite ideas about some of the small differences, I\'d been planning on posting about it anyway. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nBut in a different thread that doesn\'t involve reprints<img src="forum/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" /><br />\r\n<br />\r\nSteve B\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=933454" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 933454 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_933454_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">steve B</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=4257">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=4257" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to steve B</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=4257" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by steve B</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 933454 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #933454 -' + '->';
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Seriously, it will happen.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Actually I agree with that, and have felt that way for years.  A year or two ago there was a detailed thread that discussed this very issue.  What I have been told by people with expertise in that sort of thing is that at the moment, if it could be done, the cost to duplicate a lithographic card so well such as to pass scrutiny in all respects would at minimum be multiples of 5 figures, very possibly going well into 6 figures.  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Everything after that would be profit. What would happen to the hobby if such a scenario were realized?</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Clearly the concern you express is correct, and it is scary.  The implication, which we are already starting to see with respect to alterations, is that without provenance, "new find" Wagners may hold little value.  For example, cards with a strong pedigree (e.g., Lionel Carter collection) will sell for premiums, which in time may become greater and greater.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=933477" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 933477 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_933477_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">benjulmag</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=290">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=290" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to benjulmag</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=290" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by benjulmag</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 933477 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #933477 -' + '->';
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The implication, which we are already starting to see with respect to alterations, is that without provenance, "new find" Wagners may hold little value.  For example, cards with a strong pedigree (e.g., Lionel Carter collection) will sell for premiums, which in time may become greater and greater.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>The price could go down just by printing entire sheets <img src="forum/images/smilies/eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="EEK!" class="inlineimg" /> <br />\r\n<br />\r\nSince legit graders like SGC can spot trims, they should be able to spot the sheet cuts in the future - PSA could also, but would they? (shut up Scott).  Also, in the far future the paper fiber may still be very difficult to \'disguise\' as old.  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Modern printing definitely does make a better and better representation of a T206 at the eye level, but more and more different at the microscopic level.  Under the microscope, a laser printer looks nothing like 1909 lithography, and it is at the microscopic level that you identify and date the printing.<br />\n<br />\nNow the way one could fool would be to make a fantasy item (totally made up, not a copy) using the old lithography techniques.  In art schools, you can learn how to make stone lithographs.  This is where provenance would be important.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>???  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In art schools, you can learn how to make stone lithographs.  This is where provenance would be important.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>David,<br />\r\n<br />\r\nGlad to see your post.  As I recall you were the source of most of the expert information in the earlier thread.  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pd[933496] = '<!-' + '- post #933496 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit933496" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post933496" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=933496&amp;postcount=37" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount933496" name="37"><strong>37</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post933496"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				10-21-2011, 04:05 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_933496">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=290">benjulmag</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="benjulmag is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_933496", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nCoreyRS.hanus\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: May 2009</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 784\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_933496">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_933496">\r\n			\r\n			I would think though that to pass muster with forensic dating, every material of which the card is composed must not only not contain any substance that was not commercially available in 1909, but must also match up perfectly with the substance cocktail of which T206s are composed.  I can see how the cost to do this, as well as comply with all other forensic tests (e.g., dot matrix pattern) could be quite large.  And it would seem to me if someone knew to do this, I\'m not sure counterfeiting Wagners would be the most profitable thing to counterfeit.  After all, in addition to everybody\'s radar being up when a previously unknown Wagner surfaces, the fact that they would be turning up at a certain rate in and of itself will be a basis for suspicion.  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I can see how the cost to do this, as well as comply with all other forensic tests (e.g., dot matrix pattern) could be quite large.  And it would seem to me if someone knew to do this, I\'m not sure counterfeiting Wagners would be the most profitable thing to counterfeit.  After all, in addition to everybody\'s radar being up when a previously unknown Wagner surfaces, the fact that they would be turning up at a certain rate in and of itself will be a basis for suspicion.  <i>Therefore there would be a very limited number of times a</i><i> counterfeiter would be able to go to the well on this with that in and of itself not becoming a cause for insurmountable suspicion.</i></div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div><br />\r\n<br />\r\nAnyone remember 1984 Star #101 Jordan\'s, when out of the original supposed print run of 4,000, it seemed like 14,000 were still out there after they caught fire in the early to mid-\'90\'s?  Or the 1985 Chong Modesto A\'s McGwire, when, despite a supposed original print run of 250 or so, they were everywhere during and after 1998?  Up goes supply, down goes $$$ value.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAs one that prefers to see the glass half-full, however, I believe that whenever something like a card is produced by a different process and/or with different materials than the original, there will be differences.  With technological advances, those differences may be difficult to detect, but I am convinced that they will indeed be detectable.  The costs of detection may rise considerably, however.  Invest in grading companies now???  A most interesting proposition to discuss (not the investment in TPG companies, but the detectability issue itself).  The same concerns would seem to apply equally to the coin collecting field, with the possibility of using computers to conceivably re-create dies to stamp out coins of famous rarities, like the 1804 silver dollar, 1913 liberty head nickel, etc., assuming you could also duplicate the metalurgical contents of the planchets from which the coins themselves are struck by the dies.  At the moment, there are a lot more coins that have sold for $100,000 plus than cards, and quite a few collections have sold for sums into 8 figures.  There\'s a lot of money at stake there, and at stake here.  In such circumstances, the financing necessary to devise counter-measures of detection will be in place, almost regardless of the expense.  Different processes and times of manufacture will leave different footprints, IMO.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nMay your collecting always be a prosperous proposition, even as to those that think I should find a new hobby after more than 20 years!<br />\r\n<br />\r\nLarry\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by ls7plus; 10-21-2011 at <span class="time">08:42 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=933572" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 933572 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_933572_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">ls7plus</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=35763">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=35763" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to ls7plus</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=35763" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by ls7plus</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 933572 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #933572 -' + '->';
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I can\'t imagine that couldn\'t be tackled even today. It\'s just paper and ink.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>The problem is that the resulting litho card has to have dot patterns that result in an image close enough to the real thing to fool someone like me or you, so that they can be sold as real.  And even closer to matching the real t206 dot patterns exactly, so that it can fool the grading companies.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI think the second criteria will require a computer to control the ink application, since each dot in the original image has to be mapped (using a computer), then applied (again using a computer).  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pn[985210] = "985202,985226";
pn[985226] = "985210,985242";
pn[985242] = "985226,985253";
pn[985253] = "985242,985270";
pn[985270] = "985253,985276";
pn[985276] = "985270,985288";
pn[985288] = "985276,985291";
pn[985291] = "985288,985300";
pn[985300] = "985291,985301";
pn[985301] = "985300,985305";
pn[985305] = "985301,985316";
pn[985316] = "985305,2202159";
pn[2202159] = "985316,2202213";
pn[2202213] = "2202159,2202216";
pn[2202216] = "2202213,980798";
pn[980798] = "2202216,979848";
pn[979848] = "980798,2202507";
pn[2202507] = "979848,2202512";
pn[2202512] = "2202507,929935";
pn[929935] = "2202512,929971";
pn[929971] = "929935,930007";
pn[930007] = "929971,930014";
pn[930014] = "930007,930460";
pn[930460] = "930014,979951";
pn[979951] = "930460,979961";
pn[979961] = "979951,979972";
pn[979972] = "979961,2202224";
pn[2202224] = "979972,2202229";
pn[2202229] = "2202224,2202306";
pn[2202306] = "2202229,2202317";
pn[2202317] = "2202306,2202516";
pn[2202516] = "2202317,2202324";
pn[2202324] = "2202516,2202335";
pn[2202335] = "2202324,2202468";
pn[2202468] = "2202335,2202471";
pn[2202471] = "2202468,2202485";
pn[2202485] = "2202471,929868";

// cached usernames
pu[0] = guestphrase;
pu[169] = "Rich Klein";
pu[304] = "glynparson";
pu[454] = "buymycards";
pu[11750] = "Matthew H";
pu[38] = "calvindog";
pu[42651] = "Cardboard Junkie";
pu[69] = "ullmandds";
pu[12395] = "campyfan39";
pu[52] = "Doug";
pu[7508] = "AndyG09";
pu[991] = "lharri3600";
pu[28] = "barrysloate";
pu[68541] = "JohnP0621";
pu[93] = "Ladder7";
pu[826] = "WhenItWasAHobby";
pu[193] = "Abravefan11";
pu[860] = "Runscott";
pu[8656] = "Section103";
pu[1] = "Leon";
pu[77] = "terjung";
pu[2133] = "vintagecpa";
pu[258] = "Cat";
pu[469] = "E93";
pu[502] = "byrone";
pu[44626] = "novakjr";
pu[410] = "Rob L";
pu[188] = "Scott T";
pu[11154] = "hunterdutchess";
pu[3783] = "Tsaiko";
pu[2444] = "cobblove";
pu[110] = "Vintagedegu";
pu[35763] = "ls7plus";
pu[290] = "benjulmag";
pu[2649] = "atx840";
pu[198] = "z28jd";
pu[9905] = "CW";
pu[101355] = "rjackson44";
pu[544] = "Fred";
pu[334] = "irishdenny";
pu[148] = "Exhibitman";
pu[631] = "iggyman";
pu[4257] = "steve B";
pu[92] = "2dueces";
pu[353] = "Kenny Cole";
pu[321] = "howard38";
pu[230] = "drc";
pu[231] = "joeadcock";
pu[7473] = "brass_rat";
pu[283] = "tiger8mush";
pu[116] = "MW1";
pu[72924] = "bosoxfan";
pu[95867] = "Denali";
pu[140090] = "bn2cardz";
pu[26983] = "g_vezina_c55";
pu[714] = "fkw";
pu[637] = "scooter729";
pu[2876] = "teetwoohsix";
pu[364] = "sbfinley";
pu[518] = "Blunder19";
pu[11667] = "Bilko G";
pu[167666] = "Mdoe";
pu[539] = "Angyale";
pu[41] = "V117collector";
pu[543] = "jerseygary";
pu[13633] = "DerekD";
pu[137296] = "frankbmd";
pu[2814] = "bobbyw8469";
pu[464] = "tbob";
pu[4152] = "ctownboy";
pu[2394] = "bbcard1";
pu[17639] = "scmavl";
pu[811420] = "Dead-Ball-Hitter";
pu[617] = "MVSNYC";
pu[1086] = "JustinD";
pu[591] = "philliesfan";
pu[820325] = "joshleon";
pu[460] = "Misunderestimated";
pu[104352] = "Mark17";
pu[760193] = "53toppscollector";
pu[691039] = "jingram058";

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writeLink(929868, 0, 0, 169, "", "The Cincinnati Wagner...", "10-06-2011", "07:48 PM", 0);
  writeLink(929869, 0, 0, 304, "T", "Wtf", "10-06-2011", "08:06 PM", 0);
    writeLink(929870, 0, 0, 454, "I,L", "fake", "10-06-2011", "08:14 PM", 0);
      writeLink(929871, 0, 0, 11750, "I,1,T", "<i>Glad we finally know its real.</i>", "10-06-2011", "08:19 PM", 0);
        writeLink(929872, 0, 0, 38, "I,1,I,L", "<i>It's racists like you people...</i>", "10-06-2011", "08:20 PM", 0);
          writeLink(929878, 0, 0, 42651, "I,1,I,1,T", "oh boy!", "10-06-2011", "08:39 PM", 0);
          writeLink(929879, 0, 0, 69, "I,1,I,1,T", "<i>Ridiculous...that card is a...</i>", "10-06-2011", "08:40 PM", 0);
            writeLink(929881, 0, 0, 12395, "I,1,I,1,I,L", "<i>not saying it is real, but if...</i>", "10-06-2011", "08:52 PM", 0);
              writeLink(929882, 0, 0, 52, "I,1,I,1,I,1,T", "<i>I wish they would quit...</i>", "10-06-2011", "08:59 PM", 0);
                writeLink(929883, 0, 0, 7508, "I,1,I,1,I,1,I,L", "<i>Always Clueless Authentic...</i>", "10-06-2011", "09:07 PM", 0);
                  writeLink(929921, 0, 0, 991, "I,1,I,1,I,1,I,1,L", "<i>how can orlando say the card...</i>", "10-07-2011", "05:39 AM", 0);
                    writeLink(929922, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,1,I,2,L", "<i>Jeff beat me to it...the...</i>", "10-07-2011", "05:55 AM", 0);
                      writeLink(929925, 0, 0, 991, "I,1,I,1,I,1,I,3,L", "<i>has anyone here touched or...</i>", "10-07-2011", "06:13 AM", 0);
                        writeLink(929926, 0, 0, 68541, "I,1,I,1,I,1,I,4,L", "Cinn Wagner", "10-07-2011", "06:29 AM", 0);
                          writeLink(929928, 0, 0, 93, "I,1,I,1,I,1,I,5,T", "<i>There's a dozen on eBay on...</i>", "10-07-2011", "06:39 AM", 0);
                          writeLink(929960, 0, 0, 193, "I,1,I,1,I,1,I,5,L", "<i>https://lh6.googleusercontent....</i>", "10-07-2011", "10:09 AM", 0);
                            writeLink(930462, 0, 0, 110, "I,1,I,1,I,1,I,6,L", "<i>-</i>", "10-09-2011", "02:23 PM", 0);
                              writeLink(930500, 0, 0, 198, "I,1,I,1,I,1,I,7,L", "Im happy about this", "10-09-2011", "05:56 PM", 0);
                                writeLink(930533, 0, 0, 35763, "I,1,I,1,I,1,I,8,L", "<i>Hi, Corey.  You may well be...</i>", "10-09-2011", "08:12 PM", 0);
                                  writeLink(930535, 0, 0, 469, "I,1,I,1,I,1,I,9,L", "<i>If they thought it was...</i>", "10-09-2011", "08:31 PM", 0);
                                    writeLink(930539, 0, 0, 454, "I,1,I,1,I,1,I,10,L", "scam?", "10-09-2011", "08:43 PM", 0);
              writeLink(929972, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,1,L", "<i>I know we've been over this a...</i>", "10-07-2011", "10:43 AM", 0);
                writeLink(929974, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,2,L", "<i>Who are these hosers at ACA...</i>", "10-07-2011", "10:46 AM", 0);
                  writeLink(929984, 0, 0, 8656, "I,1,I,1,I,3,T", "<i>It's pretty simple - the...</i>", "10-07-2011", "11:14 AM", 0);
                    writeLink(929991, 0, 0, 304, "I,1,I,1,I,3,I,L", "<i>I do not care what the...</i>", "10-07-2011", "11:51 AM", 0);
                      writeLink(929994, 0, 0, 1, "I,1,I,1,I,3,I,1,L", "however", "10-07-2011", "12:18 PM", 0);
                        writeLink(930004, 0, 0, 77, "I,1,I,1,I,3,I,2,L", "<i>OK, I'm far from a T206...</i>", "10-07-2011", "01:18 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(930008, 0, 0, 258, "I,1,I,1,I,3,I,3,L", "<i>Leon:  Maybe you can have...</i>", "10-07-2011", "01:36 PM", 0);
                            writeLink(930012, 0, 0, 469, "I,1,I,1,I,3,I,4,L", "<i>My memory could be failing...</i>", "10-07-2011", "01:47 PM", 0);
                  writeLink(930233, 0, 0, 188, "I,1,I,1,I,3,L", "<i>http://tytempletonart.files.wo...</i>", "10-08-2011", "11:40 AM", 0);
                    writeLink(930238, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,4,L", "<i>Scott- did you see the one...</i>", "10-08-2011", "12:07 PM", 0);
                      writeLink(930252, 0, 0, 11154, "I,1,I,1,I,5,L", "<i>How long before the card gets...</i>", "10-08-2011", "12:42 PM", 0);
                        writeLink(930258, 0, 0, 3783, "I,1,I,1,I,6,T", "<i>Good lord....</i>", "10-08-2011", "01:01 PM", 0);
                        writeLink(930307, 0, 0, 469, "I,1,I,1,I,6,T", "<i>Looks like a color copy of a...</i>", "10-08-2011", "05:42 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(930349, 0, 0, 2444, "I,1,I,1,I,6,I,L", "<i>&quot; \nHow long before the card...</i>", "10-08-2011", "08:55 PM", 0);
                            writeLink(930359, 0, 0, 110, "I,1,I,1,I,6,I,1,L", "<i>-</i>", "10-08-2011", "11:08 PM", 0);
                              writeLink(930367, 0, 0, 35763, "I,1,I,1,I,6,I,2,T", "<i>While I'm skeptical also, I'd...</i>", "10-09-2011", "12:59 AM", 0);
                                writeLink(930376, 0, 0, 93, "I,1,I,1,I,6,I,2,I,L", "<i>Larry, it's been examined by...</i>", "10-09-2011", "06:11 AM", 0);
                                  writeLink(930406, 0, 0, 290, "I,1,I,1,I,6,I,2,I,1,L", "<i>Larry, \n \nI think you'd be...</i>", "10-09-2011", "10:07 AM", 0);
                              writeLink(930454, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,6,I,2,L", "<i>Yeah, but he got to play the...</i>", "10-09-2011", "01:31 PM", 0);
                        writeLink(930541, 0, 1, 9905, "I,1,I,1,I,6,L", "<i>Yes, so scared, in fact, that...</i>", "10-09-2011", "08:52 PM", 0);
                          writeLink(930552, 0, 0, 304, "I,1,I,1,I,7,L", "Im sorry", "10-09-2011", "09:42 PM", 0);
                            writeLink(930562, 0, 0, 44626, "I,1,I,1,I,8,T", "<i>Gotta agree with Glyn.   From...</i>", "10-09-2011", "10:39 PM", 0);
                              writeLink(930585, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,8,I,L", "<i>I suspect the next step is...</i>", "10-10-2011", "05:52 AM", 0);
                                writeLink(930588, 0, 0, 290, "I,1,I,1,I,8,I,1,T", "<i>Sounds like the business...</i>", "10-10-2011", "06:59 AM", 0);
                                  writeLink(930628, 0, 1, 1, "I,1,I,1,I,8,I,1,I,L", "a few pics", "10-10-2011", "09:58 AM", 0);
                                    writeLink(930718, 0, 0, 198, "I,1,I,1,I,8,I,1,I,1,L", "<i>I'm taking offers on this...</i>", "10-10-2011", "05:22 PM", 0);
                                      writeLink(930726, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,8,I,1,I,2,L", "<i>John!!!  I was just thinking...</i>", "10-10-2011", "06:03 PM", 0);
                                        writeLink(930757, 0, 0, 198, "I,1,I,1,I,8,I,1,I,3,L", "<i>Thanks Scott, I seem to think...</i>", "10-10-2011", "07:06 PM", 0);
                                          writeLink(930802, 0, 0, 9905, "I,1,I,1,I,8,I,1,I,4,L", "<i>At this point, whether the...</i>", "10-10-2011", "11:13 PM", 0);
                                writeLink(979900, 0, 0, 69, "I,1,I,1,I,8,I,1,L", "<i>They've created their own...</i>", "03-30-2012", "01:47 PM", 0);
                                  writeLink(980449, 0, 0, 2876, "I,1,I,1,I,8,I,2,L", "<i>:D LMFAO :D Thanks.... \n...</i>", "04-01-2012", "09:17 PM", 0);
                                    writeLink(980468, 0, 0, 198, "I,1,I,1,I,8,I,3,L", "<i>Did anyone notice the picture...</i>", "04-01-2012", "10:05 PM", 0);
                                      writeLink(980474, 0, 0, 539, "I,1,I,1,I,8,I,4,L", "The irony....", "04-01-2012", "10:52 PM", 0);
                                        writeLink(980478, 0, 0, 116, "I,1,I,1,I,8,I,5,L", "<i>The entire website is filled...</i>", "04-02-2012", "12:01 AM", 0);
                            writeLink(932127, 0, 0, 35763, "I,1,I,1,I,8,L", "<i>Right!  That's why...</i>", "10-15-2011", "06:41 PM", 0);
                              writeLink(932137, 0, 0, 198, "I,1,I,1,I,9,L", "Larry", "10-15-2011", "07:05 PM", 0);
                                writeLink(932138, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,10,L", "<i>Thanks for dredging that one...</i>", "10-15-2011", "07:32 PM", 0);
                                  writeLink(932212, 0, 0, 544, "I,1,I,1,I,11,L", "<i>Leon, \n \nI have just one...</i>", "10-16-2011", "08:44 AM", 0);
                                    writeLink(932412, 0, 0, 304, "I,1,I,1,I,12,L", "Hey Larry", "10-17-2011", "12:18 AM", 0);
                                      writeLink(932461, 0, 1, 334, "I,1,I,1,I,13,T", "<i>Is it just me... or... &quot;Mr...</i>", "10-17-2011", "10:18 AM", 0);
                                        writeLink(932494, 0, 0, 148, "I,1,I,1,I,13,I,L", "<i>I was thinking more like Ren...</i>", "10-17-2011", "12:27 PM", 0);
                                          writeLink(932509, 0, 1, 631, "I,1,I,1,I,13,I,1,L", "<i>Nice try, but you are...</i>", "10-17-2011", "01:00 PM", 0);
                                      writeLink(933347, 0, 0, 35763, "I,1,I,1,I,13,L", "<i>Much more closer to the truth...</i>", "10-21-2011", "04:51 AM", 0);
                                        writeLink(933360, 0, 0, 198, "I,1,I,1,I,14,T", "wow", "10-21-2011", "07:52 AM", 0);
                                        writeLink(933368, 0, 0, 4257, "I,1,I,1,I,14,T", "<i>So do you actually believe...</i>", "10-21-2011", "08:22 AM", 0);
                                          writeLink(933382, 0, 0, 92, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,T", "<i>WOW. This card is like a bad...</i>", "10-21-2011", "09:26 AM", 0);
                                          writeLink(933383, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,L", "<i>Steve, you might be new to...</i>", "10-21-2011", "09:38 AM", 0);
                                            writeLink(933388, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,1,T", "<i>I agree it is pointless to...</i>", "10-21-2011", "10:06 AM", 0);
                                              writeLink(933391, 0, 0, 544, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,1,I,L", "<i>STOP - Here's something that...</i>", "10-21-2011", "10:24 AM", 0);
                                                writeLink(933401, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,1,I,1,T", "<i>Here's what I find curious,...</i>", "10-21-2011", "10:41 AM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(933404, 0, 0, 353, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,1,I,1,I,T", "<i>I agree that slabbing fakes...</i>", "10-21-2011", "10:49 AM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(933410, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,1,I,1,I,L", "<i>I actually responded to that...</i>", "10-21-2011", "11:00 AM", 0);
                                                writeLink(933408, 0, 0, 35763, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,1,I,1,L", "Dismount, Ladies and Gentlemen", "10-21-2011", "10:58 AM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(933419, 0, 0, 44626, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,1,I,2,T", "<i>Larry, I understand your...</i>", "10-21-2011", "11:34 AM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(933420, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,1,I,2,I,L", "<i>Yes, but what about the...</i>", "10-21-2011", "11:42 AM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(933445, 0, 0, 321, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,1,I,2,L", "<i>You left out the part where...</i>", "10-21-2011", "01:09 PM", 0);
                                            writeLink(933400, 0, 0, 4257, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,1,L", "<i>That was pretty much what I...</i>", "10-21-2011", "10:40 AM", 0);
                                              writeLink(933413, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,2,L", "<i>Examples please. If you are...</i>", "10-21-2011", "11:05 AM", 0);
                                                writeLink(933414, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,3,T", "<i>Scott- I went back and saw...</i>", "10-21-2011", "11:10 AM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(933416, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,3,I,L", "<i>It's okay Barry.  I should...</i>", "10-21-2011", "11:22 AM", 0);
                                                writeLink(933431, 0, 0, 4257, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,3,T", "<i>The known uncataloged variety...</i>", "10-21-2011", "12:12 PM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(933442, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,3,I,T", "<i>Steve, you have me a bit...</i>", "10-21-2011", "12:51 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(933447, 0, 0, 4257, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,3,I,I,L", "<i>Woah! My earlier post listed...</i>", "10-21-2011", "01:13 PM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(933448, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,3,I,L", "<i>Steve, I've never been quite...</i>", "10-21-2011", "01:13 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(933454, 0, 0, 4257, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,3,I,1,L", "<i>The Wilson is a real puzzler....</i>", "10-21-2011", "01:37 PM", 0);
                                                writeLink(933473, 0, 0, 290, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,3,L", "<i>Actually I agree with that,...</i>", "10-21-2011", "02:44 PM", 0);
                                                  writeLink(933474, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,4,L", "<i>Even if the cost went into...</i>", "10-21-2011", "02:48 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(933477, 0, 0, 290, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,5,T", "<i>Clearly the concern you...</i>", "10-21-2011", "02:52 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(933482, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,5,I,L", "<i>The price could go down just...</i>", "10-21-2011", "03:05 PM", 0);
                                                    writeLink(933479, 0, 0, 110, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,5,L", "<i>-</i>", "10-21-2011", "02:55 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(933483, 0, 0, 230, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,6,T", "<i>I don't believe that.  Modern...</i>", "10-21-2011", "03:08 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(933485, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,6,I,T", "<i>???  That's what we were...</i>", "10-21-2011", "03:15 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(933487, 0, 0, 290, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,6,I,L", "<i>David, \n \nGlad to see your...</i>", "10-21-2011", "03:20 PM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(933493, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,6,I,1,L", "<i>Given the technology we have...</i>", "10-21-2011", "03:42 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(933496, 0, 0, 290, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,6,I,2,T", "<i>I would think though that to...</i>", "10-21-2011", "04:05 PM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(933572, 0, 0, 35763, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,6,I,2,I,L", "<i>[/I] \n \nAnyone remember 1984...</i>", "10-21-2011", "08:06 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(933497, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,6,I,2,L", "<i>The problem is that the...</i>", "10-21-2011", "04:09 PM", 0);
                                                      writeLink(933584, 0, 0, 4257, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,6,L", "<i>The thing is that the...</i>", "10-21-2011", "08:54 PM", 0);
                                                        writeLink(933589, 0, 0, 35763, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,7,L", "<i>Thanks, Steve-" + "-very...</i>", "10-21-2011", "09:07 PM", 0);
                                                          writeLink(933610, 0, 0, 231, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,8,L", "<i>Barry \n \nI would guess the 2...</i>", "10-21-2011", "10:05 PM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(933645, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,T", "<i>You're probably right. They...</i>", "10-22-2011", "05:53 AM", 0);
                                                              writeLink(934158, 0, 0, 304, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,L", "STAR jORDANS", "10-24-2011", "02:28 PM", 0);
                                                                writeLink(938889, 0, 0, 7473, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,1,L", "Don't want to beat a dead...", "11-11-2011", "08:48 PM", 0);
                                                                  writeLink(938896, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,2,T", "<i>I hope they are planning to...</i>", "11-11-2011", "09:26 PM", 0);
                                                                  writeLink(938897, 0, 0, 353, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,2,T", "<i>Interesting.  They were...</i>", "11-11-2011", "09:27 PM", 0);
                                                                  writeLink(938898, 0, 0, 631, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,2,L", "<i>Whoa!  So it's not a proof...</i>", "11-11-2011", "09:28 PM", 0);
                                                                    writeLink(938944, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,3,L", "<i>Well, they need an angle to...</i>", "11-12-2011", "05:53 AM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(939015, 0, 0, 198, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,4,T", "What I think is funny", "11-12-2011", "12:06 PM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(939036, 0, 0, 72924, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,4,I,L", "<i>Truer words have never been...</i>", "11-12-2011", "02:18 PM", 0);
                                                                          writeLink(939048, 0, 0, 230, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,4,I,1,L", "<i>No one here knows the racial...</i>", "11-12-2011", "03:25 PM", 0);
                                                                            writeLink(939057, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,4,I,2,L", "<i>If that Wagner were real, its...</i>", "11-12-2011", "03:55 PM", 0);
                                                                              writeLink(939154, 0, 0, 95867, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,4,I,3,L", "<i>I have been a member of Net54...</i>", "11-12-2011", "11:40 PM", 0);
                                                                                writeLink(939275, 0, 0, 2444, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,4,I,4,L", "<i>Hey I have that...</i>", "11-13-2011", "03:26 PM", 0);
                                                                      writeLink(939028, 0, 0, 283, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,4,L", "<i>wow Barry, in the ~6 years of...</i>", "11-12-2011", "01:13 PM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(939032, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,5,T", "<i>Rob- when these guys first...</i>", "11-12-2011", "01:40 PM", 0);
                                                                        writeLink(939034, 0, 0, 116, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,5,L", "<i>Barry's absolutely correct. ...</i>", "11-12-2011", "02:04 PM", 0);
                                                                          writeLink(979855, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,6,L", "<i>Michael, if you really want...</i>", "03-30-2012", "11:01 AM", 0);
                                                                            writeLink(979861, 0, 0, 26983, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,T", "<i>i spoke last week end at the...</i>", "03-30-2012", "11:12 AM", 0);
                                                                              writeLink(979880, 0, 0, 714, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,T", "<i>this story aint even funny...</i>", "03-30-2012", "12:17 PM", 0);
                                                                              writeLink(979882, 0, 0, 469, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,L", "<i>These guys are relentless. ...</i>", "03-30-2012", "12:22 PM", 0);
                                                                                writeLink(979884, 0, 0, 637, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,1,T", "<i>Well, direct from their...</i>", "03-30-2012", "12:27 PM", 0);
                                                                                writeLink(979885, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,1,L", "<i>If it goes on ebay, there...</i>", "03-30-2012", "12:31 PM", 0);
                                                                                  writeLink(979887, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,2,L", "<i>Yes, but Barry - since they...</i>", "03-30-2012", "12:37 PM", 0);
                                                                                    writeLink(979894, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,3,L", "<i>It would be unfortunate if...</i>", "03-30-2012", "01:14 PM", 0);
                                                                                      writeLink(979896, 0, 0, 2876, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,4,L", "<i>You're right Barry- but...</i>", "03-30-2012", "01:32 PM", 0);
                                                                                        writeLink(979899, 0, 0, 364, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,5,L", "<i>There is no way in heck ebay...</i>", "03-30-2012", "01:41 PM", 0);
                                                                                          writeLink(979901, 0, 0, 26983, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,6,L", "<i>It is the guy at ACA who told...</i>", "03-30-2012", "01:49 PM", 0);
                                                                                            writeLink(979904, 0, 0, 140090, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,7,L", "<i>I have a feeling ebay may be...</i>", "03-30-2012", "01:53 PM", 0);
                                                                                              writeLink(979906, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,8,T", "<i>I don't see any controversy...</i>", "03-30-2012", "02:00 PM", 0);
                                                                                                writeLink(979909, 0, 0, 26983, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,8,I,T", "<i>x 2</i>", "03-30-2012", "02:04 PM", 0);
                                                                                                writeLink(979910, 0, 0, 140090, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,8,I,L", "<i>Entirely, 100%, agreed.  That...</i>", "03-30-2012", "02:05 PM", 0);
                                                                                              writeLink(980038, 0, 0, 11667, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,I,8,L", "<i>Interesting thread. the ACA...</i>", "03-31-2012", "08:01 AM", 0);
                                                                            writeLink(979989, 0, 0, 116, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,7,L", "<i>I have to admit that now I'm...</i>", "03-30-2012", "09:45 PM", 0);
                                                                              writeLink(980046, 0, 0, 167666, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,8,L", "<i>The issue has never been the...</i>", "03-31-2012", "08:25 AM", 0);
                                                                                writeLink(980070, 0, 0, 116, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,9,L", "<i>Yes.  I know.  I was being...</i>", "03-31-2012", "10:16 AM", 0);
                                                                                  writeLink(980638, 0, 0, 26983, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,10,L", "<i>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...</i>", "04-02-2012", "07:40 PM", 0);
                                                                                    writeLink(980643, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,11,L", "<i>A 600K starting bid is every...</i>", "04-02-2012", "07:52 PM", 0);
                                                                                      writeLink(980676, 0, 0, 3783, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,12,L", "<i>This listing was ended by the...</i>", "04-02-2012", "09:13 PM", 0);
                                                                                        writeLink(980690, 0, 0, 140090, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,13,T", "<i>From the auction description:...</i>", "04-02-2012", "09:37 PM", 0);
                                                                                        writeLink(980693, 0, 0, 41, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,13,L", "Looks Fake To Me, But What Do...", "04-02-2012", "09:39 PM", 0);
                                                                                          writeLink(980721, 0, 0, 543, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,14,L", "<i>Well, master printer Arnie...</i>", "04-02-2012", "11:21 PM", 0);
                                                                                            writeLink(980724, 0, 0, 11750, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,15,L", "<i>Lol eBay already cut the...</i>", "04-02-2012", "11:49 PM", 0);
                                                                                              writeLink(980735, 0, 0, 11667, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,16,L", "<i>Ebay didn't cut the auction....</i>", "04-03-2012", "02:18 AM", 0);
                                                                                                writeLink(980739, 0, 0, 2444, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,T", "<i>I bet they were testing to...</i>", "04-03-2012", "03:13 AM", 0);
                                                                                                  writeLink(980764, 0, 0, 92, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,L", "<i>Geez, I'm really tired of...</i>", "04-03-2012", "07:13 AM", 0);
                                                                                                    writeLink(980782, 0, 0, 167666, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,1,L", "<i>It is humurous, and a bit...</i>", "04-03-2012", "08:29 AM", 0);
                                                                                                      writeLink(980800, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,2,L", "<i>Correct spelling is...</i>", "04-03-2012", "09:38 AM", 0);
                                                                                                        writeLink(980804, 0, 0, 137296, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,3,L", "Grammar in the eyes of the...", "04-03-2012", "09:59 AM", 0);
                                                                                                          writeLink(980847, 0, 0, 167666, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,4,T", "<i>I clearly have the poor...</i>", "04-03-2012", "12:35 PM", 0);
                                                                                                          writeLink(980848, 0, 0, 2814, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,4,L", "<i>LOL!!  Looks like they ended...</i>", "04-03-2012", "12:35 PM", 0);
                                                                                                            writeLink(983345, 0, 0, 631, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,5,L", "<i>Just when you thought it was...</i>", "04-12-2012", "01:57 PM", 0);
                                                                                                              writeLink(983358, 0, 0, 26983, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,6,T", "<i>another step in the saga.</i>", "04-12-2012", "02:24 PM", 0);
                                                                                                              writeLink(983363, 0, 0, 140090, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,6,L", "<i>I have learned that the...</i>", "04-12-2012", "02:36 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                writeLink(983365, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,7,L", "<i>The owners say &quot;We want...</i>", "04-12-2012", "02:42 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                  writeLink(983419, 0, 0, 1, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,8,T", "the auctioneer", "04-12-2012", "05:40 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                  writeLink(983422, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,8,L", "<i>There are two facts: \n \n1....</i>", "04-12-2012", "05:47 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                    writeLink(983441, 0, 0, 9905, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,9,T", "<i>Wow.  How exactly does an...</i>", "04-12-2012", "06:29 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                    writeLink(983445, 0, 0, 3783, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,9,L", "<i>1. They're fake breasts \n2....</i>", "04-12-2012", "06:43 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                      writeLink(983506, 0, 0, 26983, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,10,L", "<i>Hope this will not happen.</i>", "04-12-2012", "09:27 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                        writeLink(985113, 0, 1, 9905, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,11,L", "<i>The auction appears to be...</i>", "04-18-2012", "10:38 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                          writeLink(985114, 0, 1, 9905, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,12,L", "<i>Had to post this screen cap. ...</i>", "04-18-2012", "10:48 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                            writeLink(985133, 0, 0, 826, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,13,T", "Disclaimer in the latest Ebay...", "04-19-2012", "07:31 AM", 0);
                                                                                                                            writeLink(985166, 0, 0, 140090, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,13,L", "<i>I posted yesterday (a lost...</i>", "04-19-2012", "10:19 AM", 0);
                                                                                                                              writeLink(985181, 0, 0, 140090, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,14,L", "<i>I see ebay took down the...</i>", "04-19-2012", "10:47 AM", 0);
                                                                                                                                writeLink(985186, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,15,L", "<i>Cut the guy some slack - I...</i>", "04-19-2012", "11:01 AM", 0);
                                                                                                                                  writeLink(985194, 0, 0, 140090, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,16,L", "<i>haha</i>", "04-19-2012", "11:26 AM", 0);
                                                                                                                                    writeLink(985202, 0, 0, 69, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,17,L", "<i>i sent the seller a message...</i>", "04-19-2012", "11:40 AM", 0);
                                                                                                                                      writeLink(985210, 0, 0, 140090, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,18,L", "<i>I reported it to ebay as...</i>", "04-19-2012", "12:04 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                        writeLink(985226, 0, 0, 464, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,19,L", "<i>&quot;Why don't those in the...</i>", "04-19-2012", "12:41 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                          writeLink(985242, 0, 0, 4152, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,20,L", "<i>I was going to ask the...</i>", "04-19-2012", "01:34 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                            writeLink(985253, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,21,T", "<i>Now that ebay shut him down,...</i>", "04-19-2012", "01:52 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                            writeLink(985270, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,21,L", "<i>Hey, one of the cuckoos fell...</i>", "04-19-2012", "02:46 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                              writeLink(985276, 0, 0, 69, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,22,T", "<i>Not lookin' like it barry!</i>", "04-19-2012", "02:56 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                                writeLink(985288, 0, 0, 28, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,22,I,L", "<i>You're right Peter...these...</i>", "04-19-2012", "03:07 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                              writeLink(985291, 0, 0, 140090, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,22,L", "<i>Why do they think that every...</i>", "04-19-2012", "03:12 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                                writeLink(985300, 0, 0, 230, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,23,T", "<i>Aren't the authentic versions...</i>", "04-19-2012", "04:01 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                                writeLink(985301, 0, 0, 2394, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,23,L", "<i>I do admire their tenacity. I...</i>", "04-19-2012", "04:03 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                                  writeLink(985305, 0, 0, 230, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,24,L", "<i>Sorry.  Birds are on the...</i>", "04-19-2012", "04:21 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                                    writeLink(985316, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,25,L", "<i>These guys would fail the...</i>", "04-19-2012", "04:49 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                                      writeLink(2202159, 0, 0, 17639, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,26,L", "<i>For those that remember this,...</i>", "03-04-2022", "09:52 AM", 0);
                                                                                                                                                        writeLink(2202213, 0, 1, 811420, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,27,L", "Picture of it slabbed", "03-04-2022", "12:06 PM", 0);
                                                                                                                                                          writeLink(2202216, 0, 0, 617, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,I,28,L", "<i>The show was interesting. We...</i>", "03-04-2022", "12:14 PM", 0);
                                                                                                writeLink(980798, 0, 0, 13633, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,I,17,L", "<i>I'd say it's was just an ad...</i>", "04-03-2012", "09:28 AM", 0);
                                                            writeLink(979848, 0, 0, 140090, "I,1,I,1,I,14,I,9,L", "<i>It looks like 6months is the...</i>", "03-30-2012", "10:43 AM", 0);
                                        writeLink(2202507, 0, 0, 304, "I,1,I,1,I,14,L", "<i>And Larry wonders why I think...</i>", "03-05-2022", "05:38 AM", 0);
                                          writeLink(2202512, 0, 0, 101355, "I,1,I,1,I,15,L", "<i>Probably the most idiotic...</i>", "03-05-2022", "05:43 AM", 0);
          writeLink(929935, 0, 0, 0, "I,1,I,1,L", "", "more", "", 0);
      writeLink(929971, 0, 0, 860, "I,1,L", "<i>That's simple. Remember, they...</i>", "10-07-2011", "10:34 AM", 0);
        writeLink(930007, 0, 0, 2133, "I,2,L", "<i>I would love to read that...</i>", "10-07-2011", "01:32 PM", 0);
          writeLink(930014, 0, 0, 0, "I,3,L", "", "more", "", 0);
  writeLink(930460, 0, 0, 2649, "T", "<i>Slabbed \n...</i>", "10-09-2011", "01:59 PM", 0);
  writeLink(979951, 0, 0, 2649, "T", "<i>http://i.imgur.com/BDKWI.jpg</i>", "03-30-2012", "05:19 PM", 0);
    writeLink(979961, 0, 0, 518, "I,L", "<i>if it goes on ebay I will buy...</i>", "03-30-2012", "05:55 PM", 0);
      writeLink(979972, 0, 1, 198, "I,1,L", "<i>For those just reading this...</i>", "03-30-2012", "08:17 PM", 0);
  writeLink(2202224, 0, 0, 1086, "T", "<i>https://everythingisviral.com/...</i>", "03-04-2022", "12:37 PM", 0);
    writeLink(2202229, 0, 0, 198, "I,L", "<i>This show was from early...</i>", "03-04-2022", "12:46 PM", 0);
      writeLink(2202306, 0, 0, 17639, "I,1,L", "<i>Ah, I searched &quot;Edwards...</i>", "03-04-2022", "03:36 PM", 0);
        writeLink(2202317, 0, 0, 591, "I,2,L", "<i>I must have been in a coma as...</i>", "03-04-2022", "03:57 PM", 0);
          writeLink(2202516, 0, 0, 0, "I,3,L", "", "more", "", 0);
  writeLink(2202324, 0, 0, 544, "L", "<i>Wow, blast from the past.</i>", "03-04-2022", "04:08 PM", 0);
    writeLink(2202335, 0, 0, 820325, "1,L", "<i>I watched that entire video...</i>", "03-04-2022", "04:30 PM", 0);
      writeLink(2202468, 0, 0, 460, "2,L", "<i>At the beginning of the video...</i>", "03-04-2022", "10:32 PM", 0);
        writeLink(2202471, 0, 0, 104352, "3,L", "<i>I loved how the card owner,...</i>", "03-04-2022", "11:00 PM", 0);
          writeLink(2202485, 0, 0, 760193, "4,L", "<i>hes been at it for so long. I...</i>", "03-05-2022", "12:41 AM", 0);

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			STOP - Here's something that wasn't considered:<br />
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What if the BACK of that card came from a "REAL/Authentic" T206 Honus Wagner card?  Let's say someone had the real deal and the front was somehow destroyed.  The person then takes the "REAL" back from a REAL T-206 Honus Wagner card and pastes a fake Wagner front to it.  Wouldn't that make it half real?  <img src="forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Stick Out Tongue" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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