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He has descendants.  If the ancestors, and Cobb himself, had this type of history, it\'s very strange that the family wouldn\'t have been more vocal against what had sadly been accepted as the more awful account of the "truth".  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI have not yet read the Leerhsen book.  <i>Does he give a differing account of the story of Cobb going into the stands to attack the crippled heckler who allegedly called him the N word?</i></div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>The Leerhsen link I provided states:  "He was the first baseball celebrity, and he did not always handle well the responsibilities that came with that. And yes,<i> he once went into the stands and repeatedly punched a man who had been heckling him for more than a year, and who turned out to have less than the full complement of fingers—hence the story of him attacking a handicapped fan. This is a mark against him.</i> But was he a racist and an embarrassment to the game? 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There is no doubt that the length of season was different.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nCombining the numbers ignores many, many things and may be inconsistent with how other leagues have been handled. Yes, it ignores the length of season. It ignores the conditions that black players played under. It ignores the fact that they had to play semi-pro teams in between their official games because they needed to earn more money. It ignores the racism and discrimination that they dealt with.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nWhat we are left with is trying to figure out what to do in a world where the black players were not allowed to play in the American and National leagues, despite a lot of evidence that they were roughly equivalent players. (Books like Outsider Baseball highlight the evidence but to briefly note a couple of sources: interracial barnstorming games, the success of the black players who integrated MLB and were enormously successful in the years immediately following integration etc.)<br />\r\n<br />\r\nAt this point we are left with a \'what do we do now?\' And there is no right answer. Should Josh Gibson hit over 800 homeruns but the vast majority were in unofficial games. Should he be considered the all-time leader, or should he rank around 250th with 246? He played those games and hit those homeruns and in some cases, the unofficial games were against elite teams. But they were not official games. And so there is a tough decision to be made. Similarly, should we ignore Negro League rate stats (like batting average) because the season was shorter, or find a way to accomodate?<br />\r\nThere was no simple, clean, easy decision. And any fan with a degree of nuance will know that Ty Cobb\'s career batting average was accomplished in far longer seasons, while Josh Gibson\'s 246 homeruns barely begins to tell the story.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nIt\'s not perfect. It never will be. In part because the history is not perfect. There never should have had to have been a separate Negro League. People like Effa Manley, Gus Greenlee, Cumberland Posey etc should have owned MLB teams. Josh Gibson should have been behind the plate catching Lefty Grove or Red Ruffing etc. Satchel Paige should have been pitching to Bill Dickey or Gabby Hartnett. But that was not the case. So we are left picking up the pieces and trying to make the best of it.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nBaseball stats more than any other sport are considered sacred. And this is a big change. One that will take getting used to for many and one that some people will not like.  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Wow, Babe Ruth hit 1500 HRs?  Amazing!  Where would Babe Didrickson rank among professional baseball\'s all-time greats?<br />\n<br />\nThe only solution that works for me (and I stress, <i>for me</i> because it\'s clearly not happening) is to leave everything as it was.  <i>This is what happened in real life.</i>  How hard is that to leave alone?  We can hate that it happened, making sure to teach our children that it was wrong and that some of the best to ever play were denied opportunities because of racism.  It has to be left separate in order to accurately teach the history of the game/American society and to make it less confusing for future generations.  By all means, keep celebrating these players.  Keep putting up gravestones for those without one.  Honor and respect them all, but accept that there\'s a historical stain that will always be there and needs to remain in place for the sake of accuracy, and due to that, the leagues are forced to stay segreated.  That was life at the time.  Would it sound silly to anyone else if every African American, <i>dead or alive</i>, was retroactively given permission to drink from Jim Crow Era water fountains and open access to all the other freedoms they were historically denied?  <br />\n<br />\nBy all means, the NL stats need to be as accurately recalculated as possible using period data, but they should be limited to official games played.  Otherwise, it\'s as silly and pointless as counting every Babe Ruth exhibition and barnstorming stat.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by BillyCoxDodgers3B; 06-03-2024 at <span class="time">01:02 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2438945" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2438945 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2438945_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">BillyCoxDodgers3B</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=729">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=729" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to BillyCoxDodgers3B</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=729" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by BillyCoxDodgers3B</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2438945 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2438945 -' + '->';
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Wow, Babe Ruth hit 1500 HRs?  Amazing!  Where would Babe Didrickson rank among professional baseball\'s all-time greats?<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe only solution that works for me (and I stress, <i>for me</i> because it\'s clearly not happening) is to leave everything as it was.  <i>This is what happened in real life.</i>  How hard is that to leave alone?  We can hate that it happened, making sure to teach our children that it was wrong and that some of the best to ever play were denied opportunities because of racism.  It has to be left separate in order to accurately teach the history of the game/American society and to make it less confusing for future generations.  By all means, keep celebrating these players.  Keep putting up gravestones for those without one.  Honor and respect them all, but accept that there\'s a historical stain that will always be there and needs to remain in place for the sake of accuracy, and due to that, the leagues are forced to stay segreated.  That was life at the time.  Would it sound silly to anyone else if every African American, <i>dead or alive</i>, was retroactively given permission to drink from Jim Crow Era water fountains and open access to all the other freedoms they were historically denied?  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nBy all means, the NL stats need to be as accurately recalculated as possible using period data, but they should be limited to official games played.  Otherwise, it\'s as silly and pointless as counting every Babe Ruth exhibition and barnstorming stat.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Only official games are being counted.  But comparing Ruth\'s barnstorming to Negro League barnstorming is comparing two very different things.  The Negro Leagues were forced to barnstorm due to the realities of their existence.  Ruth barnstormed to make more money.  More importantly, the sheer quantity of games was radically different.  The Negro League stars allmost definitely played many more unofficial games than official games.  Ruth played a tiny fraction.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI\'m not arguing for including unofficial games.  Just pointing to a complexity in comparing.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2438982" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2438982 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2438982_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Topnotchsy</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=426259">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=426259" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Topnotchsy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=426259" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Topnotchsy</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2438982 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2438982 -' + '->';
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The reality is that Negro League players were not allowed to play Major League Baseball.  That is the whole reason there were Negro Leagues in the first place.  Going back and declaring them major leagues now is like retroactively declaring slavery illegal and then saying no one was ever actually enslaved in the United States.  Yes they were.  You can deal with that fact, but you can\'t change it.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n2)The Negro League stats we have, as many have pointed out, are terribly incomplete and the truth of players\' performance is irretrievable.  So it doesn\'t help to pretend that we have the real stats for Paige, Gibson, etc.  We don\'t, and the numbers we do have will never do them justice.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				198/240 1933 Goudeys (Ruth #144, #149, Gehrig #92)<br />\r\n136/208 T205s<br />\r\n47/108? 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The reality is that Negro League players were not allowed to play Major League Baseball.  That is the whole reason there were Negro Leagues in the first place.  Going back and declaring them major leagues now is like retroactively declaring slavery illegal and then saying no one was ever actually enslaved in the United States.  Yes they were.  You can deal with that fact, but you can\'t change it.<br />\n<br />\n<br />\n<br />\n2)The Negro League stats we have, as many have pointed out, are terribly incomplete and the truth of players\' performance is irretrievable.  So it doesn\'t help to pretend that we have the real stats for Paige, Gibson, etc.  We don\'t, and the numbers we do have will never do them justice.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I disagree. I think the project was well-researched over many years, not superficial in any sense, and the purpose was to better inform people of the history of the game. 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Wow.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/375448380819" target="_blank">https://www.ebay.com/itm/375448380819</a></div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I was watching that one as well. Holders of Josh Gibson\'s 1976 Shakey\'s Pizza card look to have hit a windfall as well.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Flawless BST transactions with Wondo, Marslife, arcadekrazy, Moonlight Graham, Arazi4442, wrestlingcardking and Justus.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2439053" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2439053 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2439053_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Bored5000</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=215430">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=215430" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Bored5000</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=215430" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Bored5000</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2439053 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2439053 -' + '->';
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A card released three decades after a player\'s passing should not carry such value.  I am not a fan of autograph/relic cards, but those make a bit more sense to carry value if issued posthumously.  There\'s (at least supposed to be) something contemporaneous to the player housed within.  <br />\n<br />\nI understand that there are players featured in the set for whom this was their first ever card release.  To that extent, it makes sense why people would want an example to fill a void.  But it\'s a novelty set, issued in the first wave of the rebirth of card collecting.  This wasn\'t even Gibson\'s first card.  The Toleteros was also a posthumous release, but the value there makes more sense.  Why the sudden boom in price for a 1970\'s issue that was basically created for card collectors?  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Economists call it the "substitution effect" [the change in demand for a good as a result of a change in the relative price of the good compared to that of other substitute goods].  Toleteros are rare and very expensive; many collectors want to have <i>something </i>representing the Negro League greats in their collections; I did, which is why I picked up a bunch of cards from the Laughlin set as the earliest NL set I could afford.  Another example would be Cool Papa Bell\'s 1976 self-issued set.  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The value of the \'56 being period to Mick\'s career makes that logical to me.  <br />\n<br />\nWe don\'t have that option with Gibson, but because the Laughlin was issued so much later, that is what perplexes me.  I understand it was a limited print run, which is of course tantalizing to a broad collector base, but still.  The current value of these goes hand in hand with the retroactive proclamation that the players, in fact, <i>are</i> Major Leaguers.  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Even the Toleteros is a tribute card.  So anything you get is gonna be a tribute card.  I\'m just explaining my logic and that of many others who collect the \'collector\' issues of the 1970s in lieu of impossibly rare and expensive older cards of NL players.  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Holders of Josh Gibson\'s 1976 Shakey\'s Pizza card look to have hit a windfall as well.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Who knew?\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- attachments -' + '->\r\n			<div style="padding:6px">\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n				<fieldset class="fieldset">\r\n					<legend>Attached Images</legend>\r\n					<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="3" border="0">\r\n					<tr>\r\n	<td><img class="inlineimg" src="images/attach/jpg.gif" alt="File Type: jpg" width="16" height="16" border="0" style="vertical-align:baseline" /></td>\r\n	<td><a href="attachment.php?attachmentid=623690&amp;d=1717511643">gibson,j.jpg</a> (194.9 KB, 191 views)</td>\r\n</tr><tr>\r\n	<td><img class="inlineimg" src="images/attach/jpg.gif" alt="File Type: jpg" width="16" height="16" border="0" style="vertical-align:baseline" /></td>\r\n	<td><a href="attachment.php?attachmentid=623691&amp;d=1717511653">gibson,j76.jpg</a> (124.7 KB, 193 views)</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n					</table>\r\n					</fieldset>\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			\r\n\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / attachments -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Four phrases I nave coined that sum up today\'s hobby:<br />\r\nNo consequences.<br />\r\nStuff trumps all.<br />\r\nThe flip is the commoodity.<br />\r\nAnimal Farm grading.\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2439097" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2439097 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2439097_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Peter_Spaeth</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=43">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=43" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Peter_Spaeth</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2439097 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2439097 -' + '->';
pd[2439294] = '<!-' + '- post #2439294 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2439294" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2439294" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2439294&amp;postcount=17" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2439294" name="17"><strong>17</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2439294"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				06-05-2024, 08:55 AM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=102045"><img src="image.php?u=102045&amp;dateline=1705537664"   alt="vintagerookies51\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2439294">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=102045">vintagerookies51</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="vintagerookies51 is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2439294", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nC0le Hibb@rd\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Aug 2011</div>\r\n					<div>Location: Minneapolis, MN</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 550\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2439294">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2439294">\r\n			\r\n			The only valid point people have here are the possible inaccuracy of stats from the Negro Leagues. Trying to compare this to adding Japan league stats is a joke. That league was across the world. The Negro Leagues would have played in the same league if segregation didn\'t exist. <br />\n<br />\nNegro League players won something like 10 NL MVPs in their first 13 years they were allowed to play. Maybe the MLB had more depth, but the best Negro Leagues players were always as good as the best MLB players. Can you imagine if players like Willie Mays and Hank Aaron had been whitewashed from history like Josh Gibson, Cool Papa Bell, and Oscar Charleston? 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How in the world is Lyman Bostick able to be #3 in single season batting average with only 84 PA?<br />\r\n<a href="https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_season.shtml" target="_blank">https://www.baseball-reference.com/l...g_season.shtml</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nIf they are going to change the PA requirements, they should refactor everyone else, because I bet that they only change the PA requirements for the new players and the old players still are stuck with that 3.1PA/G requirement.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI like how they have updated WAR for the teams tho, I wish they\'d do it for minor leagues too.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>Ross Barnes 1876 season qualifies but his 1872 , 1873 do not ?\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2439359" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2439359 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2439359_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Beercan collector</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=924329">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=924329" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Beercan collector</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=924329" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Beercan collector</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2439359 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2439359 -' + '->';
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My sense is that Negro League\'s best players would have been as good/better than their AL/NL counterparts. This is what the anecdotal evidence says and it\'s supported by the level of excellence of the first waves of integrated players who include many of the greatest national Leaguers ever (Aaron, Mays, et al) <br />\r\n<br />\r\nI\'m not as sure if the Negro leagues as a whole -' + '- I mean the hypothetical replacement players too -' + '- were on par with the AL and NL at the same time.  This may help account for the staggeringly high rate stats that the Negro League\'s best players (almost all hitters by the way) put up. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe Negro Leagues as a whole were definitely superior to the lesser leagues in the 19th Century and probably the Federal League in 1914-15.  The Union Association of 1884 was far worse that any league and it\'s considered a major league... Look at how good that league made Fred Dunlap look. (BTW the National Association circa 1871-75 belongs as a major league unless we are going to bounce the UA and maybe a few years of he American Association when it was at its weakest)<br />\r\n<br />\r\nI don\'t think the incompleteness of Negro Leagues data should exclude them from major league status. it is interesting that the numbers may be moving over the next few years -' + '- e.g. Josh Gibson\'s BA could go up or down.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nMany of the record-breaking seasons were during a particularly weird time in baseball history -' + '-> the WWII era when many American males (of all colors) were fighting the war.   It stands to reason that this more limited pool of players would make ir easier for the best to stand out even more.  Think of this: what would Ted Williams have hit if he had gotten to feast on the AL pitching in 1943-45 ?  He hit .406 in 1941 -' + '- I\'m guessing he gets to .420 with a lot of BB if he plays those years although Hal Newhouser was pretty awesome in 1945-46.  Of course, Josh Gibson may have been suffering from a brain tumor in the 1940\'s and he still put up those numbers. <br />\r\n<br />\r\n-' + '-<br />\r\n<br />\r\nFinally, the impact and import of baseball stats as an arbiter of greatness suffered a body blow during the PED era that it hasn\'t recovered from... Since Bonds, McGwire, and Clemens  (and company) stats lost their allure to many people. This says nothing about the Negro Leaguers -' + '- they weren\'t juicing.  But it does make all of this less meaningful than it would have been if this decision had been made in 1997.  Maybe it should have been made then, although I don\'t know how much data was available back then.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I didn\'t want to truncate your quote, as I feel it would diminish it. This conveys my opinion nearly completely.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe only thing I would add is that I would be against this move 25 years ago. Why? Not because I believed the NL didn\'t deserve the recognition, but because the method of baseball stats delivery was via BOOKS and rudimentary sort features! I was calculating 162 game comparables back in the mid 70\'s. The DH rocked my world, as it created a disparity in comparing AL/NL. It annoyed me (and to some extent, still does) when playoff \'records\' were broken and didn\'t account for playoff expansion. I loved reading old contemporary news story accounts, recollections, and biographies of past players. I was fascinated by the challenge of trying to accurately gauge how a deadball vs. liveball vs. WWII vs. Negro League vs. post expansion player would fare against one another. As I know now, it is a fruitless folly. Just watch a game from the 80\'s on youtube. The level of play (NOT the \'game\') now is tremendously greater. And that is within my lifetime.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nNow do I believe that the greats would be great regardless? Yes. Just not as great.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nMy point is <img src="forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />, stats are stats. They give insight, not proof of superiority across generations. Inclusion of the Negro League stats are fine with me. As long as I can sort them, just as I did with the 18th century players decades ago.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nP.S. 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Your statement is accurate, but the obvious has to be kept in mind.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I agree but I am not sure what that proves or disproves.  If you want to see how the best of the NL stacked up against MLB under league game conditions and you don\'t want to compare stats between NL and MLB because of differences in play and conditions, tracking that pioneer group in MLB is the best we can do.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Read my blog; it will make all your dreams come true.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/" target="_blank">https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nOr not...\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2438411" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2438411 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2438411_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Exhibitman</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=148">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=148" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Exhibitman</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="http://www.americasgreatboxingcards.com/">Visit Exhibitman\'s homepage!</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=148" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Exhibitman</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2438411 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2438411 -' + '->';
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Gibson now has the highest batting average ever. I think this is ridiculous-' + '-the competition was not the same. This is just a botched attempt to atone for past injustices.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I think a bigger concern is the incompleteness of the stats.  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Your point seems irrelevant to the one Jay raised.  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Your point seems irrelevant to the one Jay raised.  His point (and not commenting on its merit) would be as if MLB decided to include this year\'s minor league stats in determining leaders.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I posted essentially the same thing that snowman did to Jay\'s comments.  And I have never thought of MLB stats by era being relevant but when people are opposing the stats of a group of people who were outright denied the chance to play in the MLB, not because they were not good enough but because of the color of their skin, the argument comparing eras has some merit.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nThere is no perfect solution to this...sorta like the ML auction debate (though some very esteemed members did not see it as a debate)...I think most who look at stats take into account the era as well as the guys who are suspected of using PEDs.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\nIn my personal opinion, having the stats included with MLB stats does not make those players any more legit than they already were.  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But, from the FWIW department, below are the first few paragraphs from a piece by Kevin Blackistone that appears is the Sports Section of today\'s Wash. Post. If anyone cares to read this entire piece, here\'s the link to it: <a href="https://wapo.st/3RaqMGu" target="_blank">https://wapo.st/3RaqMGu</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n"A chapter inside the 1991 edition of “Total Baseball” written by sports scholar Jules Tygiel, whom I interviewed a few times for his seminal research on the Negro Leagues, recounts offseason whistle-stop games in which White baseball stars played against their counterparts in the Black leagues.<br />\r\n<br />\r\nThe section came to mind this week after MLB’s Negro Leagues Statistical Review Committee, led by official MLB historian John Thorn, concluded that the achievements of Black players during the 60-year segregated era should be included in the official statistics of what, despite that racist history, has been celebrated as America’s pastime.<br />\r\n<br />\r\n“Postseason tours against big league stars offered an opportunity for black players to prove their equality on the diamond,” Tygiel wrote in 1991. “Matchups between the Babe Ruth or Dizzy Dean ‘All-Stars’ and black players became frequent. 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margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Exhibitman</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2438417#post2438417" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic"><b>Your</b> new single-season batting average leader, Tetelo Vargas .471:<br />\n<br />\n<img src="https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous5/websize/1932%20Quintana%20Doble%20Aguila%20Vargas_1.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div><br />\n<b>single season batting leader -Not mine.</b><br />\n<br />\n<br />\n<br />\n.\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				<b>Leon Luckey<br />\r\nwww.luckeycards.com</b>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; 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What a joke. <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<div style="margin:20px; margin-top:5px; ">\r\n	<div class="smallfont" style="margin-bottom:2px">Quote:</div>\r\n	<table cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset">\r\n			\r\n				<div>\r\n					Originally Posted by <strong>Exhibitman</strong>\r\n					<a href="showthread.php?p=2438417#post2438417" rel="nofollow"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/buttons/viewpost.gif" border="0" alt="View Post" /></a>\r\n				</div>\r\n				<div style="font-style:italic">Your new single-season batting average leader, Tetelo Vargas .471:<br />\r\n<br />\r\n<img src="https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous5/websize/1932%20Quintana%20Doble%20Aguila%20Vargas_1.jpg" border="0" alt="" /></div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2438489" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2438489 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2438489_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Goudey</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=586001">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=586001" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Goudey</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=586001" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Goudey</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2438489 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2438489 -' + '->';
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Cobb, Ruth or any of the all-time greats.</div>\r\n			\r\n		</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>I\'m not sure about this.  Let\'s say you had a ticket or program from Willie Mays\' first hit 2 days ago. You likely had a ticket or program for the MLB game in which he got his first hit. But now a ticket or program for his first hit game would technically have to come from a Birmingham Black Barons game. If such a program or ticket exists, then that piece of memorabilia just soared in value, while perhaps the pieces from his first MLB hit game become a little less valuable.  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pd[2437949] = '<!-' + '- post #2437949 -' + '->\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- open content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<div align="center">\r\n	<div class="page" style="width:100%; text-align:left">\r\n		<div style="padding:0px 25px 0px 25px" align="left">\r\n\r\n	<div id="edit2437949" style="padding:0px 0px 6px 0px">\r\n	<!-' + '- this is not the last post shown on the page -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<table class="tborder" id="post2437949" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="1" border="0" width="100%" align="center">\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="thead" >\r\n		<div class="normal" style="float:right">\r\n			&nbsp;\r\n			#<a href="showpost.php?p=2437949&amp;postcount=37" target="new" rel="nofollow" id="postcount2437949" name="37"><strong>37</strong></a> &nbsp;\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n		<div class="normal">\r\n			<!-' + '- status icon and date -' + '->\r\n			<a name="post2437949"><img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/post_old.gif" alt="Old" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n				05-29-2024, 07:18 PM\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / status icon and date -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	<td class="alt2" style="padding:0px">\r\n		<!-' + '- user info -' + '->\r\n		<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6" border="0" width="100%">\r\n		<tr>\r\n			<td class="alt2"><a href="member.php?u=148"><img src="image.php?u=148&amp;dateline=1666326762"   alt="Exhibitman\'s Avatar" border="0" /></a></td>\r\n			<td nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div id="postmenu_2437949">\r\n					\r\n					<a class="bigusername" href="member.php?u=148">Exhibitman</a>\r\n					<img class="inlineimg" src="images/statusicon/user_offline.gif" alt="Exhibitman is offline" border="0" />\r\n\r\n\r\n					<script type="text/javascript"> vbmenu_register("postmenu_2437949", true); <\/scr' + 'ipt>\r\n					\r\n				</div>\r\nAd@m W@r$h@w\r\n<div class="smallfont">\r\n				Member\r\n</div>\r\n				\r\n				\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n			<td width="100%">&nbsp;</td>\r\n			<td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap">\r\n\r\n				<div class="smallfont">\r\n					<div>Join Date: Apr 2009</div>\r\n					<div>Location: Beautiful Downtown Burbank</div>\r\n					\r\n					<div>\r\n						Posts: 14,162\r\n					</div>\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					\r\n					<div>    </div>\r\n				</div>\r\n\r\n			</td>\r\n		</tr>\r\n		</table>\r\n		<!-' + '- / user info -' + '->\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n	\r\n	<td class="alt1" id="td_post_2437949">\r\n		\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n			<!-' + '- icon and title -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<img class="inlineimg" src="forum/images/icons/icon1.gif" alt="Default" border="0" />\r\n				\r\n			</div>\r\n			<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n			<!-' + '- / icon and title -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<!-' + '- message -' + '->\r\n		<div id="post_message_2437949">\r\n			\r\n			I don\'t think prices will do much of anything.  When the NL numbers were initially canonized, prices on a lot of guys spiked, Wilson among them.  That cat is already out of the bag.  <br />\n<br />\nOh, and a few Wilsons:<br />\n<br />\n<img src="https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous5/websize/1948%20Remar%20Wilson%201.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />\n<img src="https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous5/websize/1950%20Remar%20Wilson%202.jpg" border="0" alt="" /><br />\n<br />\nA snapshot too, taken on opening day 1949 in San Diego:<br />\n<br />\n<img src="https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibitman/miscellaneous4/websize/1949%20Luke%20Easter%20photo.jpg" border="0" alt="" />\r\n		</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / message -' + '->\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- sig -' + '->\r\n			<div>\r\n				__________________<br />\r\n				Read my blog; it will make all your dreams come true.  <br />\r\n<br />\r\n<a href="https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/" target="_blank">https://adamstevenwarshaw.substack.com/</a><br />\r\n<br />\r\nOr not...\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / sig -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n\r\n		\r\n		<!-' + '- edit note -' + '->\r\n			<div class="smallfont">\r\n				<hr size="1" style="color:#D1D1E1; background-color:#D1D1E1" />\r\n				<em>\r\n					\r\n						Last edited by Exhibitman; 05-29-2024 at <span class="time">07:24 PM</span>.\r\n					\r\n					\r\n				</em>\r\n			</div>\r\n		<!-' + '- / edit note -' + '->\r\n		\r\n\r\n		<div style="margin-top: 10px" align="right">\r\n			<!-' + '- controls -' + '->\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				<a href="newreply.php?do=newreply&amp;p=2437949" rel="nofollow"><img src="images/buttons/quote.gif" alt="Reply With Quote" border="0" /></a>\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			\r\n				\r\n			\r\n			\r\n			<!-' + '- / controls -' + '->\r\n		</div>\r\n\r\n	<!-' + '- message, attachments, sig -' + '->\r\n\r\n	</td>\r\n</tr>\r\n</table>\r\n\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- post 2437949 popup menu -' + '->\r\n<div class="vbmenu_popup" id="postmenu_2437949_menu" style="display:none;">\r\n	<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" border="0">\r\n	<tr>\r\n		<td class="thead">Exhibitman</td>\r\n	</tr>\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="member.php?u=148">View Public Profile</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="private.php?do=newpm&amp;u=148" rel="nofollow">Send a private message to Exhibitman</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="http://www.americasgreatboxingcards.com/">Visit Exhibitman\'s homepage!</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n		<tr><td class="vbmenu_option"><a href="search.php?do=finduser&amp;u=148" rel="nofollow">Find all posts by Exhibitman</a></td></tr>\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	\r\n	</table>\r\n</div>\r\n<!-' + '- / post 2437949 popup menu -' + '->\r\n\r\n\r\n	</div>\r\n	\r\n		</div>\r\n	</div>\r\n</div>\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / close content container -' + '->\r\n\r\n<!-' + '- / post #2437949 -' + '->';
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Japan, Mexico, Cuba, and other places had major leagues of baseball play for many many years, but we don\'t consider them the same and are not considering including the as well. <br />\nThis is a quote from the website Trib live that I think shows what I mean about it being different.<br />\n"In 1943, when Gibson hit his “record-setting” .466, his Homestead Grays finished first in the Negro National League with 53 wins, 14 losses and a tie. The Harrisburg Stars finished third with a record of 8-8. Must have been a lot of rainouts."<br />\nThe full article... <a href="https://triblive.com/sports/mark-madden-adding-negro-league-stats-to-mlb-is-dishonest-factually-incorrect/" target="_blank">https://triblive.com/sports/mark-mad...lly-incorrect/</a> <br />\n<br />\nSo he hit 466 in about 70 games. That\'s a lot different than hitting that for 140 games. Do we even know how many abs he had? Would he have qualified for the title based on that if he was in the MLB?<br />\nAgain, I am in no way saying Gibson was less of a great player. I am saying that comparing records played in different leagues, even in the same time period, is not an accurate comparison.<br />\nI mean how can you really compare records of a player who has 2100 at bat\'s over 14yrs(150/yr) to a player who has over 11000 at bat\'s in 24 yrs(458/yr) and say their records are equal. In no single year did Gibson have over 250ab. He would have never qualified for any single year batting title accolades. (BTW, I used baseball reference website for those stats). <br />\n<br />\nI am sorry they were left out of the MLB for so long. I wish BB had been integrated sooner. Imo, adding those records to official MLB records does not make up for anything. It just confuses and changes well established standards of excellence with data that is incomplete, at best, only partially verifiable, and played against different competition. <br />\n<br />\nIt would have been great to see them compete day in day out vs Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, etc, etc, but we didn\'t. 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pn[2438856] = "2438852,2438857";
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pn[2438881] = "2438860,2438887";
pn[2438887] = "2438881,2438892";
pn[2438892] = "2438887,2438932";
pn[2438932] = "2438892,2438936";
pn[2438936] = "2438932,2438945";
pn[2438945] = "2438936,2438982";
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pn[2438984] = "2438982,2439000";
pn[2439000] = "2438984,2439052";
pn[2439052] = "2439000,2439053";
pn[2439053] = "2439052,2439065";
pn[2439065] = "2439053,2439067";
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pn[2439363] = "2439359,2438858";
pn[2438858] = "2439363,2438871";
pn[2438871] = "2438858,2438872";
pn[2438872] = "2438871,2438371";
pn[2438371] = "2438872,2438411";
pn[2438411] = "2438371,2437880";
pn[2437880] = "2438411,2438028";
pn[2438028] = "2437880,2438073";
pn[2438073] = "2438028,2438105";
pn[2438105] = "2438073,2438316";
pn[2438316] = "2438105,2438415";
pn[2438415] = "2438316,2438417";
pn[2438417] = "2438415,2438420";
pn[2438420] = "2438417,2438439";
pn[2438439] = "2438420,2438489";
pn[2438489] = "2438439,2437936";
pn[2437936] = "2438489,2437949";
pn[2437949] = "2437936,2437996";
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pu[1018608] = "BigfootIsReal";
pu[617532] = "G1911";
pu[891583] = "anchorednw";
pu[1] = "Leon";
pu[13552] = "aljurgela";
pu[806] = "oldjudge";
pu[289] = "prestigecollectibles";
pu[655] = "Touch\\\'EmAll";
pu[232] = "toppcat";
pu[624461] = "Lorewalker";
pu[788322] = "cgjackson222";
pu[923057] = "jethrod3";
pu[148] = "Exhibitman";
pu[1008148] = "Swadewade51";
pu[460] = "Misunderestimated";
pu[751859] = "Snowman";
pu[662] = "ValKehl";
pu[160725] = "conor912";
pu[763] = "Republicaninmass";
pu[729] = "BillyCoxDodgers3B";
pu[762807] = "Carter08";
pu[522] = "Vintageclout";
pu[89] = "GaryPassamonte";
pu[586001] = "Goudey";
pu[307554] = "bnorth";
pu[321541] = "drcy";
pu[2388] = "Lordstan";
pu[172684] = "Deertick";
pu[688499] = "Casey2296";
pu[101355] = "rjackson44";
pu[450] = "insidethewrapper";
pu[189367] = "JollyRoger";
pu[616859] = "Yoda";
pu[104352] = "Mark17";
pu[544] = "Fred";
pu[629781] = "Tomi";
pu[426259] = "Topnotchsy";
pu[665005] = "jsfriedm";
pu[629050] = "Gorditadogg";
pu[215430] = "Bored5000";
pu[687968] = "Schlesinj";
pu[203547] = "puckpaul";
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