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if I understand the playoff scenario correctly, the winner of this weekend's Cowboys/Redskins matchup will be the winner of the NFC East.
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That's correct, the loss on Sunday didn't hurt the Cowboys playoff chances at all.
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But I like it better this way. If the Cowboys can't beat the Redskins, they wouldn't be going very far anyway.
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Scott, I meant that after the results of all of Sunday's games it didn't matter.
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Still a chance. Should have to win to get in. Was watching a news report on channel 9 here in DC that said that 73% of the people who voted, and every state but Texas, were rooting for the Redskins. Did not get all the details on who ran the poll, but wow. I am in the minority on that one.
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Anxiously awaiting an update to this thread from Dallas fans. Another ho-hum finish from an underachieving franchise. How many sets of goat horns and who gets to wear them?
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Okay, here are my thoughts, and they are the same as last year, and the year before, and the year before that. When it's crunch time and the playoffs are on the line, Romo can't do the job. Yeah, great stats during the season. That hasn't gotten us to the playoffs.
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The Cowboys are considered by Forbes to be the most valuable football franchise, so the "America's Team" thing has worked. The Redskins are #3 on the list. It's strange to me that I get to see the Cowboys almost every week on t.v., yet I live in Seattle where everyone hates them. People here must want to watch them, even if it's just to see them lose. I'm fine with that.
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I have no issue with any of it. I never have liked them bc when I was growing up in St. Louis they were the Cardinals biggest rivals. But I'll give them their due - they were good and when you best them you beat a good team. This is all a part of the ESPNing of American Sports, you get a hold of something and cover it and beat it into the ground. That's what you have with Jerry Jones. Honestly I can't tell from the coverage most of the time if they are mocking him or lauding him. He has built a great monument to himself there, now he needs to fill it with a football team. At the end of the day I don't think most fans, pro or con, measure the success of a franchise based on where it stands on the the Forbes list but rather on how many championships it at least competes for. And IMO after the initial run of glory purchased by Herschel Walker and coached by Jimmy J., Jerrah has put up a goose egg. I live in KC which is closer to Big D and I don't get the Cowboys every week. It's close though and it makes for good theatre.
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I mentioned Forbes because the value of the franchise is at least partially the result of all the media hype the team receives. The more everyone hates them (the more "theater"), the more their value increases. Winning hasn't seemed to matter.
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Who's #2 on the list btw the Cowboys and the Redskins, the Pats?
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Of course I want to see them win, and I don't care what the franchise is worth - again, just a response to your comment about the media.
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Jerry Jones brought all of this on himself. He pushed Jimmy Johnson out because he thought he could coach just as well. Who knows what Jimmy might have accomplished if he had been there long term. Jerry has continued to act as GM with very little success. I'm definitely not a Dan Snyder fan but, after a decade of futility, he was smart enough to shut his mouth, hire a coach and GM to get the job done, and let them do what they do best without meddling. Jerry is apparently not that smart. jeff Last edited by jefferyepayne; 12-31-2012 at 02:21 PM. |
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The positive thing about the Washington loss is that Cowboys fans can forget about them until next Fall. My prediction is that they will have a much better year, easily make the playoffs, then choke in the first round. I believe around this time last year I made some predictions about Romo choking this season. I'll have to go dig that post up
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I believe you can state that empirically based on his total body of work. I think Scott is right, this is an ego issue. I just can't fathom someone having that big of an ego that they can't even get out of their own way.
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I was talking with someone last night, comparing the Seattle situation and Pete Carroll, with the Jones/Johnson thing in the '90s. The big difference is that Paul Allen lets Pete Carroll coach the team and John Schneider gets to be the GM. What an odd arrangement! As a result, the Seahawks might be at the beginning of a long reign.
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Agreed Scott, even Dan Snyder saw the light. Has always been the same way, remember when he hired Switzer, overmatched from the begining. Never been the same since. Things were coming together, in my opinion with Parcells, who seemed to get fed up with it. Think we will just have to deal with it until we fall lower on Forbes list or a fan revolt. He is just counting his money, and believing he is not part of the problem. Free agency has taken alot of joy out of it for me with 50%roster turnover per year. Still a fan though.
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I agree with you about Parcells. They even addressed the 'Jones interference' possibilities before signing the contract, but his ego STILL managed to creep in and screw things up. If Jones had dropped dead during Parcells' last year, I think the Cowboys would have turned it around the next year or two.
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I meant that I feel that Jones gave Switzer the job to prove to Johnson that anybody could win with that team. I do feel that almost anyone could have won with that team. I feel in that instance the coach did not matter much, that team had been there before and won it in spite of him. Switzer lost the team after that year, I felt he was overmatched. Agree about the Landry thing, had a hard time with that one for awhile. Like you say I do think his ego gets in the way of common sense sometimes, but who can fire the GM now. lol
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