Dallas Cowboys 'Loser' list

Runscott · #1 12-31-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER

At the end of the day I don't think most fans, pro or con, measure the success of a franchise based on where it stands on the the Forbes list but rather on how many championships it at least competes for.

I mentioned Forbes because the value of the franchise is at least partially the result of all the media hype the team receives. The more everyone hates them (the more "theater"), the more their value increases. Winning hasn't seemed to matter.

HRBAKER · #2 12-31-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott

I mentioned Forbes because the value of the franchise is at least partially the result of all the media hype the team receives. The more everyone hates them (the more "theater"), the more their value increases. Winning hasn't seemed to matter.

All true, but you as a "fan," would trade several spots on the Forbes list for a couple of playoff runs wouldn't you? So as an investment the Cowboys have been a windfall for Jerry but in terms of on-field success how would you rate his tenure as owner?

Who's #2 on the list btw the Cowboys and the Redskins, the Pats?

Runscott · #3 12-31-2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER

All true, but you as a "fan," would trade several spots on the Forbes list for a couple of playoff runs wouldn't you? So as an investment the Cowboys have been a windfall for Jerry but in terms of on-field success how would you rate his tenure as owner?

Who's #2 on the list btw the Cowboys and the Redskins, the Pats?

I'm pretty sure it was the Pats. Surprised me - I thought the Giants would be either #2 or #3.

Of course I want to see them win, and I don't care what the franchise is worth - again, just a response to your comment about the media.

jefferyepayne · #4 12-31-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott

I'm pretty sure it was the Pats. Surprised me - I thought the Giants would be either #2 or #3.

Of course I want to see them win, and I don't care what the franchise is worth - again, just a response to your comment about the media.

Re: on field performance

Jerry Jones brought all of this on himself. He pushed Jimmy Johnson out because he thought he could coach just as well. Who knows what Jimmy might have accomplished if he had been there long term. Jerry has continued to act as GM with very little success. I'm definitely not a Dan Snyder fan but, after a decade of futility, he was smart enough to shut his mouth, hire a coach and GM to get the job done, and let them do what they do best without meddling. Jerry is apparently not that smart.

jeff

Runscott · #5 12-31-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

Re: on field performance

Jerry Jones brought all of this on himself. He pushed Jimmy Johnson out because he thought he could coach just as well. Who knows what Jimmy might have accomplished if he had been there long term. Jerry has continued to act as GM with very little success. I'm definitely not a Dan Snyder fan but, after a decade of futility, he was smart enough to shut his mouth, hire a coach and GM to get the job done, and let them do what they do best without meddling. Jerry is apparently not that smart.

jeff

Jeff, it's just his huge ego. I've never heard of anyone having a bigger ego, but he's not stupid.

The positive thing about the Washington loss is that Cowboys fans can forget about them until next Fall. My prediction is that they will have a much better year, easily make the playoffs, then choke in the first round.

I believe around this time last year I made some predictions about Romo choking this season. I'll have to go dig that post up

jefferyepayne · #6 12-31-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott

Jeff, it's just his huge ego. I've never heard of anyone having a bigger ego, but he's not stupid.

When it comes for FOOTBALL, I would maintain that he's not smart.

jeff

HRBAKER · #7 12-31-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

When it comes for FOOTBALL, I would maintain that he's not smart.

jeff

I believe you can state that empirically based on his total body of work. I think Scott is right, this is an ego issue. I just can't fathom someone having that big of an ego that they can't even get out of their own way.

Runscott · #8 01-02-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

When it comes for FOOTBALL, I would maintain that he's not smart.

jeff

3 thoughts on this subject:

I can't believe I'm in a nit-picking contest over how to classify Jerry Jone's brain
He's 70 years old, so his brain probably is only going to get worse
I'm 54, so if my health holds out, I should enjoy around 16 years of Jones-free Cowboys at some point.
Still lots of great NFL football left. Any team that wins will be a good story...except the 49'ers

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