Dallas Cowboys 'Loser' list

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I'm pretty sure it was the Pats. Surprised me - I thought the Giants would be either #2 or #3.

Of course I want to see them win, and I don't care what the franchise is worth - again, just a response to your comment about the media.

Re: on field performance

Jerry Jones brought all of this on himself. He pushed Jimmy Johnson out because he thought he could coach just as well. Who knows what Jimmy might have accomplished if he had been there long term. Jerry has continued to act as GM with very little success. I'm definitely not a Dan Snyder fan but, after a decade of futility, he was smart enough to shut his mouth, hire a coach and GM to get the job done, and let them do what they do best without meddling. Jerry is apparently not that smart.

jeff

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

Re: on field performance

Jerry Jones brought all of this on himself. He pushed Jimmy Johnson out because he thought he could coach just as well. Who knows what Jimmy might have accomplished if he had been there long term. Jerry has continued to act as GM with very little success. I'm definitely not a Dan Snyder fan but, after a decade of futility, he was smart enough to shut his mouth, hire a coach and GM to get the job done, and let them do what they do best without meddling. Jerry is apparently not that smart.

jeff

Jeff, it's just his huge ego. I've never heard of anyone having a bigger ego, but he's not stupid.

The positive thing about the Washington loss is that Cowboys fans can forget about them until next Fall. My prediction is that they will have a much better year, easily make the playoffs, then choke in the first round.

I believe around this time last year I made some predictions about Romo choking this season. I'll have to go dig that post up

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Jeff, it's just his huge ego. I've never heard of anyone having a bigger ego, but he's not stupid.

When it comes for FOOTBALL, I would maintain that he's not smart.

jeff

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

When it comes for FOOTBALL, I would maintain that he's not smart.

jeff

I believe you can state that empirically based on his total body of work. I think Scott is right, this is an ego issue. I just can't fathom someone having that big of an ego that they can't even get out of their own way.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

I believe you can state that empirically based on his total body of work. I think Scott is right, this is an ego issue. I just can't fathom someone having that big of an ego that they can't even get out of their own way.

Winning football games isn't the most important thing to Jones - he has to win his way, and everyone has to know that the Cowboys are winning because of him. In the '90s, everyone knew it was because of Jimmy Johnson, and Jones hated that. Now he has to win with Garrett, and if he manages to, and Garrett gets credit, Garrett will be gone before long. That's the new Cowboys formula.

I was talking with someone last night, comparing the Seattle situation and Pete Carroll, with the Jones/Johnson thing in the '90s. The big difference is that Paul Allen lets Pete Carroll coach the team and John Schneider gets to be the GM. What an odd arrangement! As a result, the Seahawks might be at the beginning of a long reign.

[bigred1]

Agreed Scott, even Dan Snyder saw the light. Has always been the same way, remember when he hired Switzer, overmatched from the begining. Never been the same since. Things were coming together, in my opinion with Parcells, who seemed to get fed up with it. Think we will just have to deal with it until we fall lower on Forbes list or a fan revolt. He is just counting his money, and believing he is not part of the problem. Free agency has taken alot of joy out of it for me with 50%roster turnover per year. Still a fan though.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by bigred1

Agreed Scott, even Dan Snyder saw the light. Has always been the same way, remember when he hired Switzer, overmatched from the begining. Never been the same since. Things were coming together, in my opinion with Parcells, who seemed to get fed up with it. Think we will just have to deal with it until we fall lower on Forbes list or a fan revolt. He is just counting his money, and believing he is not part of the problem. Free agency has taken alot of joy out of it for me with 50%roster turnover per year. Still a fan though.

I'm not sure what you mean about Switzer (ego-clash with Jones?), but the only thing worse than turning ownership over to someone from Arkansas, dumping Landry like he was garbage, bringing in Jerry Johnson and his perfect hair (which actually ended up being good) or watching the team go from a clean image to the exact opposite....was naming Barry Switzer as the Cowboys head coach. When Switzer was hired I was stunned. However, some claim that he had a Super Bowl team handed over to him, and I have to disagree. A coach still has to coach his team through the season, all the playoff games and actually win the Super Bowl. To say Switzer had it handed to him is like saying coaches don't matter.

I agree with you about Parcells. They even addressed the 'Jones interference' possibilities before signing the contract, but his ego STILL managed to creep in and screw things up. If Jones had dropped dead during Parcells' last year, I think the Cowboys would have turned it around the next year or two.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

When it comes for FOOTBALL, I would maintain that he's not smart.

jeff

3 thoughts on this subject:

• I can't believe I'm in a nit-picking contest over how to classify Jerry Jone's brain
• He's 70 years old, so his brain probably is only going to get worse
• I'm 54, so if my health holds out, I should enjoy around 16 years of Jones-free Cowboys at some point.
• Still lots of great NFL football left. Any team that wins will be a good story...except the 49'ers