Henry Yee Winnings

Lordstan · #1 06-18-2012, 08:46 AM

Scott,
You ain't kidding!
The only 2 things I really wanted were the 2 signed 1934 goudeys.
IMO, $1900 for a Cuyler is crazy. I was the underbidder and bid way more than I thought it would go for. I have never seen a Cuyler signed item sell for anywhere close to that. The Camilli then sold for $200. The current market value for common players, especially since he only died in the 1990s, is in the $100 range. This is close, but still much higher than I expected.
Sigh.

BTW...Did anybody here win them?

mr2686 · #2 06-18-2012, 09:05 AM

Mark, I hope I didn't jinx it when I said I thought the Cuyler might go for $2000. I just had a feeling with the way the early bidding was going.
As for me...no bidding this time around. I decided to sit this one out and pay off the mortgage instead

Splinte1941 · #3 06-18-2012, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordstan

Scott,
You ain't kidding!
The only 2 things I really wanted were the 2 signed 1934 goudeys.
IMO, $1900 for a Cuyler is crazy. I was the underbidder and bid way more than I thought it would go for. I have never seen a Cuyler signed item sell for anywhere close to that. The Camilli then sold for $200. The current market value for common players, especially since he only died in the 1990s, is in the $100 range. This is close, but still much higher than I expected.
Sigh.

BTW...Did anybody here win them?

I can't read your post through all the smoke in this thread.

Your experience is not unlike many others.

GrayGhost · #4 06-18-2012, 09:52 AM

What smoke? you honestly sound like you are accusing the auction of shilling, as in "Where there's smoke, there's fire". I personally have known Henry a long time and he always struck me as an honest man.

I do agree that prices are WILD on stuff, but I notice guys like Scott Gaynor, Jon Richmond and others get high prices relative to m arket, IMO too. They don't have the overall quality of Henry's tho.

IF you have a serious complaint like that, and what u wrote on the other thread, you need to show proof IMO

Scott Roberts.

Lordstan · #5 06-18-2012, 01:15 PM

I didn't mean for this to be a negative thread.
Sure, I'm a little disappointed, but I'll live. It happens and you move on.
I'm sure I'll find another sometime in the future.
I am not accusing Henry of any misbehavior. The couple of times I interacted with him have been very positive.

I really would love to see others winnings.

Leon · #6 06-18-2012, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

What smoke? you honestly sound like you are accusing the auction of shilling, as in "Where there's smoke, there's fire". I personally have known Henry a long time and he always struck me as an honest man.

I do agree that prices are WILD on stuff, but I notice guys like Scott Gaynor, Jon Richmond and others get high prices relative to m arket, IMO too. They don't have the overall quality of Henry's tho.

IF you have a serious complaint like that, and what u wrote on the other thread, you need to show proof IMO

Scott Roberts.

I agree. It's one thing to always just act like an ass-wipe. It's another thing to claim someone shill bid or even insinuate it. I say put up or shut the F*** up. And if you never have anything positive to add to the forum then please go away.

autograf · #7 06-18-2012, 02:00 PM

Some of the stuff posted on the main forum gives reason to pause (bidders with multiple feedbacks who've never bid with anyone else) but I've never had a problem with him. Looking through some of his Chuck Klein card auctions, I thought prices were very fair.....(6) E285 Rittenhouse cards for a couple hundred bucks seems fair to low. There were some baseball bat pencils that went low. Some went high. I don't follow the photo wars but that seems to be where much of the 'rub' is so I don't know. He got HUGE dollar for a plastic baseball bat bank that would routinely sell on ebay for $40-$60 and sold for $200+. Don't know. Agree that Gaynor, Richmond and others get more than retail for stuff and no one presents the items better than Henry, so it be what it be! Congrats to winners...........

D. Bergin · #8 06-18-2012, 02:13 PM

Jeez, it's similar to a buyer who decides they're going to spend their money one month on a Leland's auction or a Legendary auction.

Bid history only goes back 30 days in the % field.

I've also noticed a few A-holes in the last couple months using bid retractions to screw around with both bidders and sellers of auctions lately.

Wish Ebay would just make Bidder ID's public again and/or start coming down hard on habitual retractions.

I blocked one guy last week who had about 80 retractions in the last several months and only a couple auctions won. He did it to one of my auctions and retracted a bid before any other bids came in. I did a little investigating and found he was doing this to multiple sellers............running up bids to check the high bid out..............retracting it back to the previous level. Just being a plain sh*t. I blocked him right away.

Ebay just doesn't seem to care about retraction history.

Leon · #9 06-18-2012, 02:15 PM

Here is my gavelsnipe snipe below....$173.11 below my max.

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eBay Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop UN-CATALOGUED 1935 N.L. Stars Premiums (9) DIZZY DEAN, WANER... (261041082862) hyee_aucti.. 343/13 US $511.11 US $338.00 -- Jun 17th 2012 22:03:13 CDT Jun 17th 2012 22:03:05 CDT Winning Bid of US $338.00 View

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slidekellyslide · #10 06-18-2012, 02:30 PM

If a Henry Yee auction ever goes off without shill bidding accusations it will be a first. I don't know either way, but he does get crazy money for items that no one else is able to get. Insane bidders, shill bidding or whatever..it is what it is...if you want to win something from Henry Yee you better be prepared to pay higher than market price.

I actually think the shill bidding accusations are so legendary at this point that people place higher than usual bids thinking that the only way they can win is the beat the shill when in reality legitimate bidders are running each other up out of fear.

thecatspajamas · #11 06-18-2012, 02:39 PM

I said basically the same thing in the other thread, but I'll repeat it here: quality merchandise, clear/detailed photos and scans, and knowledgable descriptions will typically translate to higher prices realized.

If you're used to shopping sellers with 1-line descriptions and fuzzy satellite images that rely on you already knowing what it is you're looking at to fill in the details, you may well have sticker shock (or gavel shock in this case, I guess). If putting in the extra effort into presenting the items attractively and thoroughly DIDN'T translate to higher prices realized, why would anyone put forth the effort? HARD WORK THAT PAYS OFF ISN'T A SCAM.

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