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View Poll Results: Wagner or not the Wagner.. that is the question.
Yes, this is Honus Wagner 36 52.94%
No, it can't be Honus and I will list why I think so in the thread 32 47.06%
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:00 PM
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I do not believe the person in the original photo is Wagner. The batter in question has a larger, more egg shaped head. Look at the distance from his ears to the back of his head... Much more than the picture of Wagner above.
The picture of the head is facing away in the original vs towards the camera in this.. Completely diff angle when viewing the head and ear.
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The picture of the head is facing away in the original vs towards the camera in this.. Completely diff angle when viewing the head and ear.
Yes, I took that into account. The known Wagner is a straight side shot. The unknown is rotated slightly. Not nearly enough to account for difference in head shape, IMO. Look at the difference in how the hat fits the back of his head.
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I do not believe the person in the original photo is Wagner. The batter in question has a larger, more egg shaped head. Look at the distance from his ears to the back of his head... Much more than the picture of Wagner above.... The unknown is rotated slightly. Not nearly enough to account for difference in head shape, IMO.....
No - the difference in angle is substantial. It would be very difficult even for a forensic expert meaningfully compare the ear-to-back-of-head distances in those two photos.
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I am not sure if these will help for reference or not but I will post them.
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The post regarding Fred Clarke has some weight to it, I felt it was possibly Wilson but here is a high quality of Clarke batting and it also has alot of similarities. This is a little bit higher quality than the small photo of Clarke batting.
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I would make a case that the batter can be Wagner as follows, though I will admit it bothers me that the batter's belt buckle is way over on his right side - not common for Wagner. In any case, there is no indication from feature comparison that he's not Wagner.

I'll also add that the poll question is flawed - there is no check box for "it can be Wagner."
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It appears that Wagner had a prominent bridge, which I don't see in the photo in question. How about Roy Thomas? Or Lefty Leifield? Or the switching hitting infielder with a high OBP Charlie Starr?
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It appears that Wagner had a prominent bridge, which I don't see in the photo in question. How about Roy Thomas? Or Lefty Leifield? Or the switching hitting infielder with a high OBP Charlie Starr?
The prominent bridge is just below the orange arrow in all 3 photos.The change in slope that occurs at that point as it moves towards the spot between the eyes is visible in the center photo. It doesn't (and shouldn't) look exactly the same as in the other two photos because the viewpoint is very much below and behind his head.

The Thomas and Leifield noses don't match. I don't have a good enough image of Starr for comparison.
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