This is the problem with grading...

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I know Dan. I can see that an 8 and an 8.5 could be interchangeable, they are really just a hairline apart. But changing the 8 to a 10 made the card increase in value by 6700%. Don't you think the graders need to be a whole lot more responsible in their assessments?

Absolutely. If you look at PSA's video about the grading process, they claim at least 2 graders review the card and sometimes three if the first two graders can't agree. How did this Art Shell and others get by them?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

How did this Art Shell and others get by them?

How did this PSA 10 get by them with 3 touched corners and a fisheye?

[barrysloate]

I agree with you David that something is amiss here.

And I just saw the Ryan you posted- both of the bottom corners show touches of wear. Not a whole lot, but enough to knock the card down to the 8-8.5 range. What's going on here?

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I agree with you David that something is amiss here.

And I just saw the Ryan you posted- both of the bottom corners show touches of wear. Not a whole lot, but enough to knock the card down to the 8-8.5 range. What's going on here?

Agreed.

Good work again David.

[mwilliams]

Folks...I distinctly remember (and it caused quite a stir on the old Full Count board) when a 1887 N172 Old Judge King Kelly PSA 6 sold in a Maestro auction that later found itself in a PSA 9 holder. This has been going on for some time now unfortunately.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I agree with you David that something is amiss here.

And I just saw the Ryan you posted- both of the bottom corners show touches of wear. Not a whole lot, but enough to knock the card down to the 8-8.5 range. What's going on here?

There also seems to be a notch/touch on the right border at shoulder height.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

There also seems to be a notch/touch on the right border at shoulder height.

Do you mean the same notch (and print dot) it had when it was a PSA 9?

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Do you mean the same notch (and print dot) it had when it was a PSA 9?

That would be the one.