Memory Lane Plank

calvindog · #1 12-15-2012, 02:56 PM

Yes, it was a painful lesson to learn that gains on sales of collectibles are not taxed as capital gains.

g_vezina_c55 · #2 12-16-2012, 07:36 AM

72 500$ wow a big lost for the last year buyer and price drop !!!!!!

sb1 · #3 12-16-2012, 08:09 AM

It was a weak 5 and the typical washed out 350 series. A nice 150 would have brought double this price.

e107collector · #4 12-16-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sb1

It was a weak 5 and the typical washed out 350 series. A nice 150 would have brought double this price.

I agree with Scott, the 150 series look so much nicer compared to a 350 series.

Tony

sb1 · #5 12-16-2012, 11:48 AM

Big difference in the presentation of the 150 series vs. 350 series. This is true of all T206's not just the Plank, the 150's have much bolder color and better registration. I would image the plates/stones being new and fresh contributed to this as well as this being a new issue, more attention to detail was paid. By the 350 series, T206 printing volume was probably up, inking was stretched further and the result was an inferior product.

Runscott · #6 12-19-2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sb1

Big difference in the presentation of the 150 series vs. 350 series. This is true of all T206's not just the Plank, the 150's have much bolder color and better registration. I would image the plates/stones being new and fresh contributed to this as well as this being a new issue, more attention to detail was paid. By the 350 series, T206 printing volume was probably up, inking was stretched further and the result was an inferior product.

Can you show us some examples? I know it's true for Plank, but for others I have seen plenty of 350's that look just as clean as the 150's - meaning the plates weren't suffering much, or had been re-created. Also, weren't the same plates used for Coupons? If that's true, they should have all looked like hell.

sb1 · #7 12-20-2012, 06:27 AM

Scott,

Kind of hard to show without comparisons of each card, but in the old days when dealers had multiple cards of each player in an album, you could pick the 150's out very easily, always deeper color and a sharper look. I once won a bet with a dealer that I could differentiate the two series from the front only and after only 2 pages in the binder he conceded. And, it's a abit hard to do on the internet unless the cards all in one scan, where each one is displayed next to one another and not random scans from multiple sources.

As to the Coupon cards, I would say most of those do not have the sharpness of the 150 series T206's and we do see that by 1919 type 3 Coupon they were very washed out looking.

steve B · #8 12-20-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Runscott

Can you show us some examples? I know it's true for Plank, but for others I have seen plenty of 350's that look just as clean as the 150's - meaning the plates weren't suffering much, or had been re-created. Also, weren't the same plates used for Coupons? If that's true, they should have all looked like hell.

I'm almost certain the plates were redone between the 150 and 350 runs. There are likely some holdovers where already printed 150's were run with 350 backs but only a few. The same probably happened between 350 and 460 runs too.

They really would have been redone for the coupons and other related sets, since the stones were expensive and the plates don't store well. Stones were typically resurfaced and reused for other jobs. The masters that were used to make the layout transfers would have been retained for some time.

Steve B

g_vezina_c55 · #9 12-16-2012, 12:08 PM

Another plank for sale... psa 5 SC350.

http://www.lelands.com/Auction/Aucti...lank-(PSA-5-EX)

bidding end on 21 dec...

E93 · #10 12-16-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

Another plank for sale... psa 5 SC350.

http://www.lelands.com/Auction/Aucti...lank-(PSA-5-EX)

bidding end on 21 dec...

I agree with Scott. The other thing is that with this second (and IMHO nicer) example coming up, it may have effected how aggressive bidders would be.
JimB

g_vezina_c55 · #11 12-16-2012, 12:17 PM

yep i just see the lelands's example....

iwantitiwinit · #12 12-16-2012, 01:36 PM

That is a weak 5 at best. I send a card in with 3 of 4 soft corners best I ever get back is a 4.0

Guttapercha · #13 12-19-2012, 07:39 PM

Plank psa 5 at memory lane sold for $86000. The Leland's psa 5 is at $102,000 ( including fees) already. What's with that? In my opinion the memory lane looks better. That person appears to have gotten the deal? Anyone's thought?

hammer · #14 12-19-2012, 07:46 PM

Dont believe every price for cards that you see.

Guttapercha · #15 12-19-2012, 07:54 PM

Hammer, what's that mean? You have a conspiracy theory?

danmckee · #16 12-19-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

Yes, it was a painful lesson to learn that gains on sales of collectibles are not taxed as capital gains.

Yu did something by the book?? Christ I am losing respect for you Jeff!

baseballart · #17 12-19-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog View Post
Yes, it was a painful lesson to learn that gains on sales of collectibles are not taxed as capital gains.

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Originally Posted by danmckee

Yu did something by the book?? Christ I am losing respect for you Jeff!

Canada is a good taxing jurisdiction for sales of collectibles. Unless you are a dealer, any gain on cards or memorabilia is taxed at the capital gains rate, which in my home province is 21.85% (i.e. only 1/2 of the gain is taxable, highest marginal rate of 43.7). As well, there is a $1,000 floor on the cost, which means that you only pay tax on gains where the proceeds exceed actual cost or a deemed minimum cost of $1,000. Losses on cards are not deductible against gains, however.

Max

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