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Old 01-23-2013, 03:16 PM
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From what I understand this investigation and alleged fraud centered almost solely around '70's cello packs, many of them showing star cards on the top and often bottom.
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So PSA is allegedly going after someone whom they believed submitted fraudulent items for PSA to grade and authenticate? Is this the first time they believe that's been done (doctored cards included)?
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Open all the packs see what you get I know it is gambling, But you can throw out the evidence and start new .
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From what I understand this investigation and alleged fraud centered almost solely around '70's cello packs, many of them showing star cards on the top and often bottom.
Actually Anthony,
it involves some 60s and 80s also all with stars on top and all with clear
evidence of being tampered with, in a way that should never get by an
expert, some of those stars should never be on top like for example
1979 Thrman Munson his card ony came in the bottom section and a
true expert should know that
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Actually Anthony,
it involves some 60s and 80s also all with stars on top and all with clear
evidence of being tampered with, in a way that should never get by an
expert, some of those stars should never be on top like for example
1979 Thrman Munson his card ony came in the bottom section and a
true expert should know that
Um, is this the accused fake pack creator making these statements in this thread? Of so.... um, wow.
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Wow,

If I remember some of the threads on the PSA boards, this guy was flaunting packs with Mantle on top, etc. - he had a killer collection, or so he made everyone believe he did...
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Um, is this the accused fake pack creator making these statements in this thread? Of so.... um, wow.
There seems to be a lot more to this story. Tell us more pepis.
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Pepis, it seems you are in a world of hurt. Do you care to defend yourself??
OP you have a list of questionable items and have not yet been named in a suit?? Put that info in the air. Why wait until it is legally sealed info??
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if only the OP was named coek, we could render a decision.
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Is Pepis the victim here? This thread started one way, with the OP talking about a "list" being released by PSA, which sounded more than strange to me, and PSA casually saying sell, sell, sell, as if it was not a touchy subject for them, yet conveyed to us as if it were. It then went to Pepis, who speaking less paranoid than the OP, communicated directly, matter of factly....And all along the OP asks about whether or not the FBI would go after victims, etc. Was Pepis trying to tell us something before this came up?: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=161891

I guess we'll never know.
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Pepis, it seems you are in a world of hurt. Do you care to defend yourself??
OP you have a list of questionable items and have not yet been named in a suit?? Put that info in the air. Why wait until it is legally sealed info??
Absolutely no hurt!
when i started my only goal was to show the enormous amount of fraud
that exist in vintage packs and pack grading and if i have to sacrifice
the posibility of any jail time it will be well worth it as the saying goes
the TRUTH shall set me free.

Charley Brown,
the start of this venture started on 12/04/10 after i saw the cu thread in the pic
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Actually Anthony,
it involves some 60s and 80s also all with stars on top and all with clear
evidence of being tampered with, in a way that should never get by an
expert, some of those stars should never be on top like for example
1979 Thrman Munson his card ony came in the bottom section and a
true expert should know that
here is the example.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:24 PM
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I heard there's some greedy people in this hobby... Is that true?
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:48 PM
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Wow, Im getting out of the hobby if baseball cards are worth going to jail for! hahaha!!
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Default 1979 Thrman Munson his card ony came in the bottom section and a true expert should
1979 Thrman Munson his card ony came in the bottom section and a
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==> how is this rock solid definitive info ? very curious to know and understand.
thx
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1979 Thrman Munson his card ony came in the bottom section and a
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==> how is this rock solid definitive info ? very curious to know and understand.
thx
Good to see you doing some research on unopened material after seeing all those bad rack packs you were selling.
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Pepis- If this is your version of an apology, then I'd say its one of the worst apologies I've ever heard. You have a lot of nerve posting an admission here in such a callous and unremorseful fashion.
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Good to see you doing some research on unopened material after seeing all those bad rack packs you were selling.
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1979 Thrman Munson his card ony came in the bottom section and a
true expert should know that
==> how is this rock solid definitive info ? very curious to know and understand.
thx
it is actually pretty simple to verefy,,
in 1979 cards were issued in 6 different series A,B,C,D,E & F
if you look on the back side of every card you'll find one of these letters next to the copy right which would indicate what panel the card came from
now if you open a legit 79 cello you'll find 2 sections separeted by a gum piece the cards in the top section should be from series D,E,F panels
and the bottom section would have cards from A,B,C, panels, AGAIN EASY A,B,C, CARDS ON THE BOTTOM SECTION,,D,E,F, IN THE TOP SECTION
if anybody checks every pack on EBAY current or past you will never find a common card from A,B,C, on top, the only time you see an A,B,C, card
on the top section is when somebody put a STAR from that panel on a home-made pack all of you with 79 cellos can easily double check it.
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Pepis, post a list of the cert numbers of the packs you received from PSA.
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whatchu talkin' 'bout willis !!
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