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					Originally Posted by sports-rings  i just read Peter Nash's blog entry on this matter at houlsofshame
 Someone posted a great line in the comments section:  Even if you were never part of a shill bid, you still lose.  (Guess he means shill bidding drives up pricing for the entire hobby)
 
 On a releated note, I hate Hunt Auction's phantom bidding on behalf of the consigner. Maybe someone can explain the difference to me of this practice vs. shill bidding!
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 I seem to always pay my ceiling bid for Hunt items.  It didn't used to be that way.   If they are going to shill me in the future (if I even participate in any more of their auctions), they will have to actually outbid me - no more ceiling bids for me.
If I ever got shilled at Mastro, the shilling still never approached my ceiling bids, on average.  I got a lot of great deals.